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Is the regular GT3 that much slower?
1. Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
2. Ford GT - 1.21.9
3. Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
3. Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
5. Murcielago - 1.23.7
6. Zonda - 1.23.8
7. Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
8. Noble - 1.25.0
9. Gallardo - 1.25.8
10. Corvette C6 - 1.26
11. Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
12. Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
1. Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
2. Ford GT - 1.21.9
3. Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
3. Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
5. Murcielago - 1.23.7
6. Zonda - 1.23.8
7. Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
8. Noble - 1.25.0
9. Gallardo - 1.25.8
10. Corvette C6 - 1.26
11. Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
12. Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
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Originally Posted by Z06
Is the regular GT3 that much slower?
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Wet track lap times are useless. I don't know why they bother. The G forces for cornering are reduced so much more than for acceleration and braking that it turns into a point and shoot contest. The GT3 will lose that one to higher torque & HP cars every time. Why the RS did so well may come down to tires or shorter gears, but I am only speculating here.
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and not really an accurate or scientific measure of a car's ability.
The 'tests' are done over a wide period of time, using different drivers ('The Stig' is not one man) and have to embrace the vast array of English weather too.
I think that the difference between the GT3 and the RS is about 90% in the tires. I know that some here like the OEM Piot Sport 2's, but I honestly think it is a very poor tire for the car, and have said it many times here. When you swap to MPSCups you will pick up so much speed due to the incredible degree of increased stability that these tires have, not to mention all the extra grip of the soft R compound. The difference is night and day, I honestly felt I had a whole new car at a track I know really well.
My guess is that a GT3RS, same driver, same track, same day etc, will only have a tiny fractional gain over a standard GT3 wearing MPSC's, that will come from the small weight saving, and the slightly altered suspension. I would also venture that a standard GT3 wearing JRZ's and MPSC's will beat a stock GT3RS anywhere.
The 'tests' are done over a wide period of time, using different drivers ('The Stig' is not one man) and have to embrace the vast array of English weather too.
I think that the difference between the GT3 and the RS is about 90% in the tires. I know that some here like the OEM Piot Sport 2's, but I honestly think it is a very poor tire for the car, and have said it many times here. When you swap to MPSCups you will pick up so much speed due to the incredible degree of increased stability that these tires have, not to mention all the extra grip of the soft R compound. The difference is night and day, I honestly felt I had a whole new car at a track I know really well.
My guess is that a GT3RS, same driver, same track, same day etc, will only have a tiny fractional gain over a standard GT3 wearing MPSC's, that will come from the small weight saving, and the slightly altered suspension. I would also venture that a standard GT3 wearing JRZ's and MPSC's will beat a stock GT3RS anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Carlos from Spain
The C6 in it will be featured this Sunday in Top Gear TV show, and the Ford GT was 2 weeks ago, so its up to date but not complete.
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Originally Posted by Christer
Yep CGT is tops, and the GT3 should apparently have around 4 secs off the time for a dry lap....how old is this list then?
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Is this the C6 coverage? http://www.sleepy-fish.com/sleepy/To...orvette_lo.wmv
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Originally Posted by Viken
Is this the C6 coverage? http://www.sleepy-fish.com/sleepy/To...orvette_lo.wmv
Downloading that show now, thanks.
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Here is the most complete lap time list that I have BTW:
Porsche Carrera GT - 1.19.8
Mercedes-Mclaren SLR - 1.20.9
Ford GT - 1.21
Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
Porsche 911 GT3 RS - 1.22.3
Lamborghini Murcielago - 1.23.7
Pagani Zonda - 1.23.8
Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
Noble M12 GTO-3 - 1.25.0
Lamborghini Gallardo - 1.25.8
Mitsubish Evo VIII MR320 – 1.26.0
Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2 (wet)
Corvette C6 - 1.26.8
Spyker C8 - 1.27.3
TVR T350c - 1.27.5
BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0 (wet)
MG SV - 1.28.6
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII FQ300 - 1.28.9
Alpina Roadster (Z8) - 1.29.0
Merc CL65AMG - 1.29
Subaru Impreza WR1 – 1.29.4
Alfa 3.7GTA – 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STi - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 Turbo - 1.31.0 (wet)
Vauxhall VX220 Turbo - 1.31.3
Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
BMW M3 - 1.31.8
Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
Mazda RX-8 - 1.31.8
Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
Noble M12 - 1.33.1
Mercedes SL55 AMG - 1.33.2
VW Golf R32 - 1.33.2
Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2 (wet)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA - 1.35.6
Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2 (wet)
Renault Clio V6 - 1.36.2
Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
Saab 9-5 HOT Aero - 1.37.9
Maserati Coupe - 1.38.0
Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
Range Rover overfinch - 1.44.0
Porsche Carrera GT - 1.19.8
Mercedes-Mclaren SLR - 1.20.9
Ford GT - 1.21
Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
Porsche 911 GT3 RS - 1.22.3
Lamborghini Murcielago - 1.23.7
Pagani Zonda - 1.23.8
Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
Noble M12 GTO-3 - 1.25.0
Lamborghini Gallardo - 1.25.8
Mitsubish Evo VIII MR320 – 1.26.0
Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2 (wet)
Corvette C6 - 1.26.8
Spyker C8 - 1.27.3
TVR T350c - 1.27.5
BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0 (wet)
MG SV - 1.28.6
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII FQ300 - 1.28.9
Alpina Roadster (Z8) - 1.29.0
Merc CL65AMG - 1.29
Subaru Impreza WR1 – 1.29.4
Alfa 3.7GTA – 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STi - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 Turbo - 1.31.0 (wet)
Vauxhall VX220 Turbo - 1.31.3
Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
BMW M3 - 1.31.8
Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
Mazda RX-8 - 1.31.8
Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
Noble M12 - 1.33.1
Mercedes SL55 AMG - 1.33.2
VW Golf R32 - 1.33.2
Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2 (wet)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA - 1.35.6
Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2 (wet)
Renault Clio V6 - 1.36.2
Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
Saab 9-5 HOT Aero - 1.37.9
Maserati Coupe - 1.38.0
Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
Range Rover overfinch - 1.44.0
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