Z06

Is the regular GT3 that much slower?


1. Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
2. Ford GT - 1.21.9
3. Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
3. Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
5. Murcielago - 1.23.7
6. Zonda - 1.23.8
7. Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
8. Noble - 1.25.0
9. Gallardo - 1.25.8
10. Corvette C6 - 1.26
11. Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
12. Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2

Larry Herman

No! Either the car wasn't aligned right or who ever drove it was afraid to push it in the corners. There is no way that a regular C6 Corvette is faster that a GT3 around any course. I have driven Z06s at horsepower tracks, and the GT3 is faster. It should only be about 2 seconds slower than an RS IMHO.

RF GURU

The track was wet that day, watch that episode and you will know. In dry it will come around to RS and 360 CS.

Larry Herman

Wet track lap times are useless. I don't know why they bother. The G forces for cornering are reduced so much more than for acceleration and braking that it turns into a point and shoot contest. The GT3 will lose that one to higher torque & HP cars every time. Why the RS did so well may come down to tires or shorter gears, but I am only speculating here.

macfly

and not really an accurate or scientific measure of a car's ability.

The 'tests' are done over a wide period of time, using different drivers ('The Stig' is not one man) and have to embrace the vast array of English weather too.

I think that the difference between the GT3 and the RS is about 90% in the tires. I know that some here like the OEM Piot Sport 2's, but I honestly think it is a very poor tire for the car, and have said it many times here. When you swap to MPSCups you will pick up so much speed due to the incredible degree of increased stability that these tires have, not to mention all the extra grip of the soft R compound. The difference is night and day, I honestly felt I had a whole new car at a track I know really well.

My guess is that a GT3RS, same driver, same track, same day etc, will only have a tiny fractional gain over a standard GT3 wearing MPSC's, that will come from the small weight saving, and the slightly altered suspension. I would also venture that a standard GT3 wearing JRZ's and MPSC's will beat a stock GT3RS anywhere.

BrianPA

Among the other things mentioned that GT3 test was in the WET. THe 360 CS and RS were in the dry.

HKE46Boy

CGT did 1:19

Christer

Yep CGT is tops, and the GT3 should apparently have around 4 secs off the time for a dry lap....how old is this list then?

Carlos from Spain

The C6 in it will be featured this Sunday in Top Gear TV show, and the Ford GT was 2 weeks ago, so its up to date but not complete.

Viken

Is this the C6 coverage? http://www.sleepy-fish.com/sleepy/To...orvette_lo.wmv

bob_dallas

The times on the list are as current as of the last test of that particular car. Some are fairly old but the ones at the top are fairly current. When the GT3 time was done it was very near the top -- even with a wet time. I'd imagine there are several factors affecting times here and they are definitely subjective.

BrianPA

Leaf springs? LEAF SPRINGS? Wtf? Are they serious? Forgive me for my ignorance but isn't that what you see on a giant truck or SUV? Consisting of nothing more than a couple of steel (or iron?) bars stacked on top of each other? How can a 2005 MY sports car of any type use that? The z06 didn't use that did it? Noone should be allowed to compare corvettes to real sports cars after this...

Carlos from Spain

Your are right Viken, it was this past Sunday (1st August) that was aired! I always download the whole show from the web and I was behind one week. I thought it was from the mag since sometimes the test comes out in the Top Gera Magazine before its in the show, like with the CGT.
Downloading that show now, thanks.

cosmos

Where can I go to get my suspension on the GT3 chromed

Carlos from Spain

Here is the most complete lap time list that I have BTW:

Porsche Carrera GT - 1.19.8
Mercedes-Mclaren SLR - 1.20.9
Ford GT - 1.21
Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
Porsche 911 GT3 RS - 1.22.3
Lamborghini Murcielago - 1.23.7
Pagani Zonda - 1.23.8
Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
Noble M12 GTO-3 - 1.25.0
Lamborghini Gallardo - 1.25.8
Mitsubish Evo VIII MR320 – 1.26.0
Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2 (wet)
Corvette C6 - 1.26.8
Spyker C8 - 1.27.3
TVR T350c - 1.27.5
BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0 (wet)
MG SV - 1.28.6
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII FQ300 - 1.28.9
Alpina Roadster (Z8) - 1.29.0
Merc CL65AMG - 1.29
Subaru Impreza WR1 – 1.29.4
Alfa 3.7GTA – 1.30.0
Subaru Impreza STi - 1.30.1
Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
Audi S4 - 1.30.9
Porsche 911 Turbo - 1.31.0 (wet)
Vauxhall VX220 Turbo - 1.31.3
Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
BMW M3 - 1.31.8
Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
Mazda RX-8 - 1.31.8
Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
Noble M12 - 1.33.1
Mercedes SL55 AMG - 1.33.2
VW Golf R32 - 1.33.2
Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2 (wet)
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA - 1.35.6
Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2 (wet)
Renault Clio V6 - 1.36.2
Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
Saab 9-5 HOT Aero - 1.37.9
Maserati Coupe - 1.38.0
Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
Range Rover overfinch - 1.44.0