GT3 vs Z06
#16
I think the gt3 tire is a little bit better than the z06 tire, both are not a r compound tire but are a very good high end tire.
What i believe is that the better tire on the GT3 helped it beat the Z06 by over three seconds, i do not think that the GT3 can be 3.15 seconds faster that a Z06, faster yes, but that much quicker, no way, that's allot.
What i believe is that the better tire on the GT3 helped it beat the Z06 by over three seconds, i do not think that the GT3 can be 3.15 seconds faster that a Z06, faster yes, but that much quicker, no way, that's allot.
#17
Having driven a Z06 at Watkins Glen, I came away rather impressed with the car. It does have a few weak points, brakes & trans, but it is an incredibly capable track car, and with a few mods (probably about $20,000 worth) you can have a car that can run with GT2s. Don't be fooled, the Corvette guys have it together.
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Larry Herman
2016 Ford Transit Connect Titanium LWB
2018 Tesla Model 3 - Electricity can be fun!
Retired Club Racer & National PCA Instructor
Past Flames:
1994 RS America Club Racer
2004 GT3 Track Car
1984 911 Carrera Club Racer
1974 914/4 2.0 Track Car
CLICK HERE to see some of my ancient racing videos.
#18
Guys listen.
I'm not saying that the GT3 is faster or better or whatever. Nor am I saying which one is better on the track. Nor am I talking about the fact that with the right mods the Z06 would be more competant and CHEAPER than a GT3.
What I am saying with this post is that for people who think or have thought the Z06 is faster than the GT3, or that the Z06 puts more power to the ground than the GT3, they better think again.
Period.
From what I saw, I would have left that thing in my dust all the way to the top. Again all I am talking about is the 2 car's ability to put power to the ground. And what I am interested most in is knowing more, that is if anyone else has had some experiences with this straight line power - not track experience and not what they think will happen, or what they wish to happen, or what should happen, I am talking about the 2 cars ability in putting all their power to the ground.
That's basically it.
I'm not saying that the GT3 is faster or better or whatever. Nor am I saying which one is better on the track. Nor am I talking about the fact that with the right mods the Z06 would be more competant and CHEAPER than a GT3.
What I am saying with this post is that for people who think or have thought the Z06 is faster than the GT3, or that the Z06 puts more power to the ground than the GT3, they better think again.
Period.
From what I saw, I would have left that thing in my dust all the way to the top. Again all I am talking about is the 2 car's ability to put power to the ground. And what I am interested most in is knowing more, that is if anyone else has had some experiences with this straight line power - not track experience and not what they think will happen, or what they wish to happen, or what should happen, I am talking about the 2 cars ability in putting all their power to the ground.
That's basically it.
#19
As a daily driver the 02+ Z06 is faster than the GT3. It has a lot of torque.
There is nothing stock, cheaper than a Z06 that beats it.
Car and Driver ran a Tuner Shoot out with S2000/Evos/Sti/Acuras/350Z with price tags of $80k with all the mods. Plenty of 400Hp monsters. The Comptech Supercharged S2000 won the contest.
Then they took a stock 04 Z16 and it spanked them all in every single test.
You can buy a 02 Z06 for $35k these days.
The Z06 is a great car with need of $10k in mods (brakes, springs/shocks and transmission cooler) to get better.
Do I take a Z06 over a GT3? --> NO
Do I take a heavily modified Mustang Cobra over a Z06 --> NO
Do I take a GT3 over a 360CS --> NO (I can't afford the 360CS yet)
There is nothing stock, cheaper than a Z06 that beats it.
Car and Driver ran a Tuner Shoot out with S2000/Evos/Sti/Acuras/350Z with price tags of $80k with all the mods. Plenty of 400Hp monsters. The Comptech Supercharged S2000 won the contest.
Then they took a stock 04 Z16 and it spanked them all in every single test.
You can buy a 02 Z06 for $35k these days.
The Z06 is a great car with need of $10k in mods (brakes, springs/shocks and transmission cooler) to get better.
Do I take a Z06 over a GT3? --> NO
Do I take a heavily modified Mustang Cobra over a Z06 --> NO
Do I take a GT3 over a 360CS --> NO (I can't afford the 360CS yet)
#23
Originally posted by ZAMIRZ
Nice kill, with equal driver's the Z06 will slowly pull away in a straight line.
Nice kill, with equal driver's the Z06 will slowly pull away in a straight line.
To date the best times I've seen for a GT3 are 0-60 in 3.9 and a 1/4 mile of 12.06 sec (I forget the speed). What is the best for a stock z06?
#24
Originally posted by Z06
There rwhp are about equal (GT3 350 rwhp vs Z06 rwhp 340 to 350) and the rwtq is in favour of the Z06, if the GT3 ways 3043 lb the Z06 is around 3115, my Z06 with Titanium exhaust and headers weight in at 3059 lb, it made 420 rwhp & 412 rwhp.
There rwhp are about equal (GT3 350 rwhp vs Z06 rwhp 340 to 350) and the rwtq is in favour of the Z06, if the GT3 ways 3043 lb the Z06 is around 3115, my Z06 with Titanium exhaust and headers weight in at 3059 lb, it made 420 rwhp & 412 rwhp.
#25
brh, I'm not magazine racing. I go to the drag strip here often since most of my buddy's are 1/4-mile freaks and while both cars can and will run low 12s with a fairly conservative launch, the Z06s tend to be more consistent. On the street the results tend to favor the Z06 as well, but only slightly (once again, from personal experience / witnessing races between the 2). I personally would rather have a GT3 over a Z06 (hell, I'd take any 911 over a Z06), but from a bang for the buck standpoint it's hard to argue with what the Z06 offers.
If your objective is a cheap all-arounder with good response to hp mods then the Z06 is your car. If you want a car you can take from the showroom floor to the racetrack with nearly zero modification (I think brake pads are the only thing some GT3 owners change when going to the track) then get the GT3. I prefer the latter
If your objective is a cheap all-arounder with good response to hp mods then the Z06 is your car. If you want a car you can take from the showroom floor to the racetrack with nearly zero modification (I think brake pads are the only thing some GT3 owners change when going to the track) then get the GT3. I prefer the latter
#26
Originally posted by ZAMIRZ
brh, I'm not magazine racing. I go to the drag strip here often since most of my buddy's are 1/4-mile freaks and while both cars can and will run low 12s with a fairly conservative launch, the Z06s tend to be more consistent.
brh, I'm not magazine racing. I go to the drag strip here often since most of my buddy's are 1/4-mile freaks and while both cars can and will run low 12s with a fairly conservative launch, the Z06s tend to be more consistent.
#27
Hey Amir,
Was great hangin with you today. We also continued the now classic Zo6/GT3 debate; you mentioned GT3s at the strip. Have you seen a GT3 at the strip? I'd like to know the character that takes a GT3 to a drag strip...
Was great hangin with you today. We also continued the now classic Zo6/GT3 debate; you mentioned GT3s at the strip. Have you seen a GT3 at the strip? I'd like to know the character that takes a GT3 to a drag strip...
#28
Again having both cars at the same time wich I did till a month ago the torque in the Z06 pulls like a train and feels much faster driving them back to back. Im surprised at the # i see for the Gt3 to me it doesn't seem that fast low 4s to 60.
#29
brh, I think it has to do with the launch more than anything. You can get a GT3 off the line by flogging the absolute crap out of it and pulling a really low 12-second pass out of the car, it is VERY possible. The clutch probably won't last more than 4-5 of these types of launches and it will put tremendous load on the half-shafts and the rest of the transaxle. The magazine's get a test vehicle and their job is to extract the fastest time out of the car with complete disregard to the reliability and consistency with which the machine will do it. With the Nissan 350Zs it was the same story, most magazines were getting times in the very high 13s but I don't know of a single 350Z bone stock that has broken into the 13s in the hands of private owners. With the AWD Lambo Diablos it was also the same story. As a matter of fact, when Lamborghini invited journalists to Italy to debut the car, they had their own test driver do the acceleration testing and in an article in C&D magazine (I don't know off the top of my head, but if you're really interested I can pull up the issue) it was even mentioned that the car needs a new clutch after every 3 launches that extract the best 1/4-mile time.
Noel, I've seen 2 at the track and 1 at the local street races. The 2 at the track were driven by what looked like younger caucasion men that were probably into hotrods in their youth and then graduated up to Porsches and the fastest time I believe was a 12.3. The 1 thing I do remember was that the GT3s trap speeds were consistently higher than the Z06s, which means the GT3 will pull at the end. The 1 at the street races was driven by a really young middle-eastern guy, maybe 20 or 21 years old who actually ran a Z06 from both a dead stop and from a 25-mph roll. From the dead stop he lost by about a car and a half length and from the roll they were dead even with the GT3 driver saying he had a nose at the very end.
BTW, good running with ya today. Those 2 highway patrolmen that were in front of us on Stunt and stopped on Piuma were there b/c that's where the body of the UCLA student was found.
Noel, I've seen 2 at the track and 1 at the local street races. The 2 at the track were driven by what looked like younger caucasion men that were probably into hotrods in their youth and then graduated up to Porsches and the fastest time I believe was a 12.3. The 1 thing I do remember was that the GT3s trap speeds were consistently higher than the Z06s, which means the GT3 will pull at the end. The 1 at the street races was driven by a really young middle-eastern guy, maybe 20 or 21 years old who actually ran a Z06 from both a dead stop and from a 25-mph roll. From the dead stop he lost by about a car and a half length and from the roll they were dead even with the GT3 driver saying he had a nose at the very end.
BTW, good running with ya today. Those 2 highway patrolmen that were in front of us on Stunt and stopped on Piuma were there b/c that's where the body of the UCLA student was found.
#30
Hmmm, from your accounts I'd say there isn't enough data to say which is faster, because you'd think the Zo6 would faster from a rolling start, given it's torque advantage; if the Zo6 is not faster from the rolling start it shouldn't be faster from stand still... There are just too many variables; tires, driver experience, vehicle mods, etc, etc. It's also usually very difficult for the average driver to see the same 1/4mile times as what the magazines aquire, yet those guys were getting 12.3s... What were the 60ft times?
[Edit] This UCLA student incident, is it recent??
[Edit] This UCLA student incident, is it recent??