OT: What do you think about the 360 CS f1 trans only?
03-08-2004, 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by 1988952
That gated Ferrari shifter is SLOWWW, the F1 shifts much faster, more"driver involvment " usually amounts to slower laptimes,technology goes forwards not backwards .
If you care to watch Formula 1 you will get the point,they dumped that manuel shifter a long time ago in favor of the paddleshifter.
That gated Ferrari shifter is SLOWWW, the F1 shifts much faster, more"driver involvment " usually amounts to slower laptimes,technology goes forwards not backwards .
If you care to watch Formula 1 you will get the point,they dumped that manuel shifter a long time ago in favor of the paddleshifter.
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03-08-2004, 03:19 PM
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Yes, I speak from recent experience because I drove more 360 manuals that I care to remember. My point in reference to the F 1 cars was that those are the most difficult race cars to drive at the limit and both hands on the steering wheel(if you can call it that) means more control ,focus and left foot braking.
Alex Zanardi blew everybody away in the US but once he stepped in to theWilliams he could not cope with it,in fact he had a hard time just qualifing ,which proofs my point above and they are not driven by remote.
If you like to cruise with a occasional redline run the manual is fine, but if you are going 10/10 on the track,the F1 is the way to go.
Alex Zanardi blew everybody away in the US but once he stepped in to theWilliams he could not cope with it,in fact he had a hard time just qualifing ,which proofs my point above and they are not driven by remote.
If you like to cruise with a occasional redline run the manual is fine, but if you are going 10/10 on the track,the F1 is the way to go.
03-08-2004, 03:23 PM
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Just reread my post. It struck me that the 360 might be qualified to be called a 'sequential' gearbox, if all it takes is that the gears come in a sequense: 1-2-3-4- etc. However I doubt you can compare it construction-wise even remotely to a F1-transmission. It probably has more in common with the construction of an automatic transmission.
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03-08-2004, 03:39 PM
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You're probably right, I have never driven a 360, only the BMW (M3) version which certainly wasn't any quicker at changing gears than I with a manual. But maybe even with the slower gearshifts the SMG provided, I could lap faster because I could always keep my hands on the wheel?
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03-08-2004, 03:42 PM
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Huh, automatic transmission? The F1 transmission is a manual with an electronic clutch (in simple terms), Formula 1 gearboxes are different.
My point was driver control, not techical differences.
My point was driver control, not techical differences.
03-08-2004, 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Christian K
Just reread my post. It struck me that the 360 might be qualified to be called a 'sequential' gearbox, if all it takes is that the gears come in a sequense: 1-2-3-4- etc. However I doubt you can compare it construction-wise even remotely to a F1-transmission. It probably has more in common with the construction of an automatic transmission.
Just reread my post. It struck me that the 360 might be qualified to be called a 'sequential' gearbox, if all it takes is that the gears come in a sequense: 1-2-3-4- etc. However I doubt you can compare it construction-wise even remotely to a F1-transmission. It probably has more in common with the construction of an automatic transmission.
03-08-2004, 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by 1988952
If you like to cruise with a occasional redline run the manual is fine, but if you are going 10/10 on the track,the F1 is the way to go.
If you like to cruise with a occasional redline run the manual is fine, but if you are going 10/10 on the track,the F1 is the way to go.
03-08-2004, 05:48 PM
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FWIW, the Ferrari's Selespeed gearbox is identical to that of the manual 6-speed's. The differences are outside the actual box where solenoids and pumps are added to actuate the clutch and gear changes.
