What Failure Diagnoses Require Engine Drop/Glitter in Oil
#76
#3 cylinder
Just took off the heads. #3 cylinder has a single line on the bottom, just visual
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lJH374deOxe-3bvOYYMh00MeI7nC5wN
Really doesn't look bad enough to account for the amount of particles being generated and ending up in the filter.
At least I found something amiss, not sure if it is "the" reason for the particles.
Just took off the heads. #3 cylinder has a single line on the bottom, just visual
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lJH374deOxe-3bvOYYMh00MeI7nC5wN
Really doesn't look bad enough to account for the amount of particles being generated and ending up in the filter.
At least I found something amiss, not sure if it is "the" reason for the particles.
Last edited by leoj65; 03-06-2020 at 02:30 AM.
#77
That does seem very minor. Jake did mention that most scoring is low in the bore and you'd need to look while the piston is tdc. Also, Schnell mentioned the likely culprit being the crankshaft bearings - did you check those?
At this stage, I'm guessing you don't have any of the glittery oil left. If you do, maybe you can take a video of it glittering and post that instead of trying to get a good picture.
At this stage, I'm guessing you don't have any of the glittery oil left. If you do, maybe you can take a video of it glittering and post that instead of trying to get a good picture.
#78
Race Director
A year or two ago, I nearly had a stroke - I was draining my oil pan into a larger container out in the driveway in the sun and noted a terrifying amount of metallic debris. After the urge to soil myself subsided, I went back to the workbench and checked the area where I store the drain pan. More tiny metal particles, leftovers from grinding I was doing at the workbench.
Not suggesting this is OP's situation (although that would be awesome)...but it does not hurt to ensure the drain pan is free of debris prior to each oil change. Leo, I don't suppose you've been grinding near your drain pan recently?
Whatever the origin of the debris, good luck.
Not suggesting this is OP's situation (although that would be awesome)...but it does not hurt to ensure the drain pan is free of debris prior to each oil change. Leo, I don't suppose you've been grinding near your drain pan recently?
Whatever the origin of the debris, good luck.
#79
That does seem very minor. Jake did mention that most scoring is low in the bore and you'd need to look while the piston is tdc. Also, Schnell mentioned the likely culprit being the crankshaft bearings - did you check those?
At this stage, I'm guessing you don't have any of the glittery oil left. If you do, maybe you can take a video of it glittering and post that instead of trying to get a good picture.
At this stage, I'm guessing you don't have any of the glittery oil left. If you do, maybe you can take a video of it glittering and post that instead of trying to get a good picture.
Gonna have to split the case, look at the back of the bores and the crank bearings as this seems like not enough wear to be the reason for the metal in oil.
#80
A year or two ago, I nearly had a stroke - I was draining my oil pan into a larger container out in the driveway in the sun and noted a terrifying amount of metallic debris. After the urge to soil myself subsided, I went back to the workbench and checked the area where I store the drain pan. More tiny metal particles, leftovers from grinding I was doing at the workbench.
Not suggesting this is OP's situation (although that would be awesome)...but it does not hurt to ensure the drain pan is free of debris prior to each oil change. Leo, I don't suppose you've been grinding near your drain pan recently?
Whatever the origin of the debris, good luck.
Not suggesting this is OP's situation (although that would be awesome)...but it does not hurt to ensure the drain pan is free of debris prior to each oil change. Leo, I don't suppose you've been grinding near your drain pan recently?
Whatever the origin of the debris, good luck.
I thoroughly cleaned the oil pan prior to dumping the filter housing into it. Then took outside in the sun.
Cheers!
Last edited by leoj65; 03-06-2020 at 02:31 AM.
#81
Burning Brakes
Splitting the case could be expensive based on what you replace. Something else to consider is if you had significant bearing damage, you would have ferrous metal in the pan.
As as suggested before, I’d check you scavenger pumps before splitting the case, and maybe the oil pump for debris and scoring.
I could be wrong but I think the bore scoring at the bottom of the bore would be due to piston rocking. If this was the case, then I think you would have ferrous debris from the iron piston skirt coating being rubbed off also.
As as suggested before, I’d check you scavenger pumps before splitting the case, and maybe the oil pump for debris and scoring.
I could be wrong but I think the bore scoring at the bottom of the bore would be due to piston rocking. If this was the case, then I think you would have ferrous debris from the iron piston skirt coating being rubbed off also.
#86
#87
IMSB was put in with this flange. Not a cause of any problem but Porsche put this part in a brand new car. Casting wasn't complete when they turned it. I doubt its a big deal but I wouldn't think Porsche would do this.
#88
#89
Rennlist Member
What about your thrust bearing? Is it ok? You have not found the source of the metal particles ?