H&R vs Feal coilovers
#16
Both seem like they have positive reviews. I have the Feal 441's myself and have been happy with them. I got the first set of 996 fitment 441's sold through their website, which I was confident in after being familiar with them in the Subaru world for several years. I think they are hard to beat for their value - they come with front camber plates, swift springs, have independent height/preload adjustments, adjustable damping, and are rebuildable by Feal in the US for $75 a corner for the original owner. The base 441 is a street oriented coilover and will not rattle your teeth out like some of the other aftermarket coilovers I've seen - I've found I like running damping set on the firmer side of the spectrum, but they are still road trip and DD friendly, not harsh at all. For semi-regular track use I'd say that the stiffer road race version would be the better choice. If anyone in the DC metro area wants a ride-along I'm happy to offer it.
That said, there are a few little issues I think they are still sorting out to keep in mind. The rear studs were threaded differently than my oem struts so I had to run get some new nuts, adjustable swaybar droplinks may be a good idea for any ride height significantly different than stock, and another user on the forum found them to be a very tight fit in the front carriers on his Turbo. Their customer service has been great in my experience though, as I've had all my emails responded to in less than a day by knowledgeable staff.
The H&R seem to be good quality but they don't offer much in the way of adjustment. For some that may be a positive as they're less effort to set up, but I wanted a bit more flexibility, and they seemed kinda pricey to not include mounts.
That said, there are a few little issues I think they are still sorting out to keep in mind. The rear studs were threaded differently than my oem struts so I had to run get some new nuts, adjustable swaybar droplinks may be a good idea for any ride height significantly different than stock, and another user on the forum found them to be a very tight fit in the front carriers on his Turbo. Their customer service has been great in my experience though, as I've had all my emails responded to in less than a day by knowledgeable staff.
The H&R seem to be good quality but they don't offer much in the way of adjustment. For some that may be a positive as they're less effort to set up, but I wanted a bit more flexibility, and they seemed kinda pricey to not include mounts.
#17
I have h&r street performance coilovers , h&r swaybars and all the bushes have been replaced with powerflex purple street polybushes , it's a great set up , you will probably need adjustable frount drop links and rear toe links if lowering the car with either CO
The h&r sp coilovers have dampers by bilstein and all the components are made in Germany . It's good kit and fully rebuildable
The h&r sp coilovers have dampers by bilstein and all the components are made in Germany . It's good kit and fully rebuildable
Last edited by Vancouver996; 06-25-2017 at 12:05 AM.
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#18
intersting thread, I am considering PSS10 and H&R RSS. I have H&R sports springs in my car now and I found too much camber at the back. I have a 996 C4S.
I guess if i lowered my car (no matter which suspension setup I choose, I will need the rear camber link kit to correct my camber?
I guess if i lowered my car (no matter which suspension setup I choose, I will need the rear camber link kit to correct my camber?
#19
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How much camber do you have and what are you trying to get to?
#21
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If that's rear, US spec calls for -1.15 degrees camber all the way up to the X74 spec of -1.65. I've been able to lower mine a few inches and still hit the -1.6 without issue.
#22
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Any updated feedback on the Feal CO's? How have they held up?
#23
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I’ve had my Feal coilovers installed since September 2018.
I’m still very happy with them.
Mine are adjusted at their maximum height since it is my DD and I have to deal with speed bumps and steep driveways.
I’m still very happy with them.
Mine are adjusted at their maximum height since it is my DD and I have to deal with speed bumps and steep driveways.
#24
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I forgot all about you installing them. How would you compare them to stock and did you get the 441 or 441+?
#25
My 441's have held up well but as I've gotten more experience on track the street-oriented coilovers have begun showing their limits - definitely need more stiffness in the rear for track use. I've done 16 track days with them since I've had them, and will probably send them back to Feal after this season to rebuild them into a more track-friendly spec. Certainly been very pleased with them for daily driving and autocross duties though, they are a great deal.
#26
My 441's have held up well but as I've gotten more experience on track the street-oriented coilovers have begun showing their limits - definitely need more stiffness in the rear for track use. I've done 16 track days with them since I've had them, and will probably send them back to Feal after this season to rebuild them into a more track-friendly spec. Certainly been very pleased with them for daily driving and autocross duties though, they are a great deal.
#27
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I've had my FEAL 441s for over 2 years on my 996tt and they are still fantastic even with our really awful roads. All street duty so far, but I will soon be PCA Club Racing with these shocks/springs once I get the cage done. As mentioned before in this thread, their service and all of my dealings with them to get the valving right, as well as the drop link arrangement (I think I was the first 996tt with their product), have been excellent.
#28
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A neat part about FEAL coil-overs is that you can run stock the USA ride height. Most coil overs will only drop the ride height.
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I put ksports on my my '02 C2 a couple weeks ago. They are damping adjustable. 35 ways I think. I have mine set to the middle all around. They also have camber plates and eliminate the need for getting new or reusing the upper strut mounts.
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