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Old 03-13-2017, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by njim3
I bought the kit through Vivid racing. Then i contacted Callas they denied customer's ordered part. Return will cost 25% restocking so i decided to go to an Indy.
Oh Boy, this could get interesting now...I sincerely hope this goes well for you, keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by Slakker
An unknown Indy doing a first time install of a Solution? Unless they are better than 80% of the indies out there and are an M96 engine specialists then NO.
Any shop that works on M96's - and I agree that's not all of them by any stretch - should be familiar with the retrofit process. Black Forest did mine 3-4 years ago, which was a little before things rose to a fever pitch, and they were very knowledgeable and had both single- and dual-row kits on-hand.

If the install was so complex that it could never be done for a first time by anyone, there wouldn't be a manual. If the manual ISN'T complete enough that a competent Porsche mechanic can do the install, the problem isn't with the installer.

Now, if you have to give your mechanic a deposit so he can afford to purchase the part prior to installing it...well...maybe he's not the ideal installer. (this is a hypothetical musing - not suggesting that this was/is the case)
Old 03-13-2017, 02:05 PM
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My Indy is just 45 years experience on Porsche cars, it had done rebuilt many of 993, 996 and Boxster engines. The pre-qualification was great, checked the timing, oil and oil filter before removing the tranny and IMS. This is single ball bearing but it had no play at all. it was like new bearing. The clutch and flywheel need to be replaced along with RMS and tranny's seal. The car will be done either today or tomorrow.

I am not a mechanic but other than the pre-qualification process. The IMS Solution alone is simple and easier than a clutch job. I believe that many people like me wanted to see that the IMS Solution is affordable and can be done from their local Porsche repair shops instead of shipping their cars to few thousand miles way to get the service done.

If the qualification process is needed for the IMS Solution, then it will be a must done on the IMSB replacement as well because the debris could enter to the IMSB easier than the plain bearing.

Thank you!
Old 03-13-2017, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by njim3
My Indy is just 45 years experience on Porsche cars, it had done rebuilt many of 993, 996 and Boxster engines.
I won't take the time to pull up the crap Indy threads, including the one where the shop botched the IMSB and reported it as an engine failure, but sounds like you have a good one.
Old 03-13-2017, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Slakker
That sucks.
Which part?

It is quite common for shops to not accept customer supplied parts, especially if they have no history with said customer.

Furthermore Callas is essentially the west coast version of F6I who understands the reputation of the Solution. Given that a certified installation is all about removing/minimizing the risks associated with engine failure, why would you trust an unknown bearing (not saying it's a fake or anything is wrong with it, just that I can get not trusting something you don't know the full providence of)?

Now if you are talking about the 25% restocking fee, all I can say is that it's Vivid. There is lots of Google history out there about issues with them, their stuff, and their policies/support...
Old 03-13-2017, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gnat
It is quite common for shops to not accept customer supplied parts, especially if they have no history with said customer.
Ditto. My indy didn't even use unopened coolant I brought in for coolant line fitting & a refill. They do not use parts where they can't take ownership of the sourcing. Partly a profit thing, partly a liability policy.
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Originally Posted by gnat
Which part?

It is quite common for shops to not accept customer supplied parts, especially if they have no history with said customer.

Furthermore Callas is essentially the west coast version of F6I who understands the reputation of the Solution. Given that a certified installation is all about removing/minimizing the risks associated with engine failure, why would you trust an unknown bearing (not saying it's a fake or anything is wrong with it, just that I can get not trusting something you don't know the full providence of)?

Now if you are talking about the 25% restocking fee, all I can say is that it's Vivid. There is lots of Google history out there about issues with them, their stuff, and their policies/support...
The IMS Solution Kit.

Each of the shop has it own policy i understood that. I choose to go with the IMS Solution that mean i am looking for cheap job but the same work done could cost me 2k-3k extra from the certified installer.
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Originally Posted by njim3
The IMS Solution Kit.
I meant which part of your statement did Slakker thinks sucks (that Callas wouldn't use the part or that Vivid wanted 25% to restock it).
Old 03-13-2017, 02:51 PM
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Here are some pictures.




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Originally Posted by gnat
It is quite common for shops to not accept customer supplied parts, especially if they have no history with said customer.
This is true. When I showed up to my valve replacement surgery with my own new valve in a Ziploc baggie, Kaiser came completely unhinged and started asking questions. Where I got it is MY business...just install the damn thing!
Old 03-13-2017, 03:11 PM
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That isn't the stock DM flywheel is it? I feel like mine looked different.
Old 03-13-2017, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by charlieaf92
That isn't the stock DM flywheel is it? I feel like mine looked different.
It is a new DM flywheel. The car will be ready today. I will take it out tonight for a long drive.
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gl going forward, should work out ok++
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Originally Posted by Slakker
Am I reading this right? You are going to have him install it from the manual? You realize the highest probability of him making a mistake are on the first couple he does, right? Why pay the extra for the solution and then go cheap on the install? You would be better off going with a retrofit and somebody that's done it 50x than a solution and a first time installer.

But hey, I guess it's only money. Just be sure to disclose you had the solution installed by a non-certified first time installer when you sell it. Otherwise you are absolutely SCREWING the next guy.
I specifically remember Jake Raby saying the majority of mistakes that he's seen are made by "highly experienced" mechanics who become complacent after doing the same procedure over and over again - i.e., they lose focus. He says the number of times you've done the job is meaningless to him... I think if you can follow instructions and pay close attention to the details, anyone with a decent tool kit and some mechanical ability can pull the job off. The big question is whether you've got the time, space and inclination to follow through with the entire job.
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Originally Posted by gnat
I meant which part of your statement did Slakker thinks sucks (that Callas wouldn't use the part or that Vivid wanted 25% to restock it).
Both. I would not do business with either company unless there were no other alternatives. But lucky for them there are plenty of people that don't feel the same way as I do.


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