Seat button popped off
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Seat button popped off
I found these two tiny springs near it, and am not quite sure how it goes back together...
Anyone have this happen?
EDIT - sorry, those dog hairs are kind of gross.
I found this but it doesn't mention those tiny springs.
Anyone have this happen?
EDIT - sorry, those dog hairs are kind of gross.
I found this but it doesn't mention those tiny springs.
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Hey Woody,
So you're loosing your ***** now? Dab nab ol' RennRoach again huh?
What type of seat do you have? Full power with heat or the upper end Sport Seats? They have different mechanisms.
So you're loosing your ***** now? Dab nab ol' RennRoach again huh?
What type of seat do you have? Full power with heat or the upper end Sport Seats? They have different mechanisms.
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Those are the contacts for the switch under that black button. DO NOT LOSE THEM.
The white or gray shaft that the button snaps on is the top of the seat reclining switch. That mechanism pivots on an "axle".
Those springs and contacts "snap" (maybe when they were new) into pockets on the bottom of the pivoting mechanism. They interface with two more tiny rockers that finally make contact with the contacts that control the seat motor. (Recline on my sport seats)
I had both of them fly out when changing the foam on one of my seats.
After hours of vacuuming the entire garage three + times, sifting through the dirt I only found the contacts and one spring. If you lose them you will have to buy an entire seat harne$$ to get replacements. I ended up re-winding a ballpoint spring on my lathe to make a replacement for the one that I lost. (Reached escape velocity and is orbiting Venus I think.)
When finally reassembling the switch, after making one replacement spring I got to do it again when the second one also achieved lift off.
The white or gray shaft that the button snaps on is the top of the seat reclining switch. That mechanism pivots on an "axle".
Those springs and contacts "snap" (maybe when they were new) into pockets on the bottom of the pivoting mechanism. They interface with two more tiny rockers that finally make contact with the contacts that control the seat motor. (Recline on my sport seats)
I had both of them fly out when changing the foam on one of my seats.
After hours of vacuuming the entire garage three + times, sifting through the dirt I only found the contacts and one spring. If you lose them you will have to buy an entire seat harne$$ to get replacements. I ended up re-winding a ballpoint spring on my lathe to make a replacement for the one that I lost. (Reached escape velocity and is orbiting Venus I think.)
When finally reassembling the switch, after making one replacement spring I got to do it again when the second one also achieved lift off.
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Those are the contacts for the switch under that black button. DO NOT LOSE THEM.
The white or gray shaft that the button snaps on is the top of the seat reclining switch. That mechanism pivots on an "axle".
Those springs and contacts "snap" (maybe when they were new) into pockets on the bottom of the pivoting mechanism. They interface with two more tiny rockers that finally make contact with the contacts that control the seat motor. (Recline on my sport seats)
I had both of them fly out when changing the foam on one of my seats.
After hours of vacuuming the entire garage three + times, sifting through the dirt I only found the contacts and one spring. If you lose them you will have to buy an entire seat harne$$ to get replacements. I ended up re-winding a ballpoint spring on my lathe to make a replacement for the one that I lost. (Reached escape velocity and is orbiting Venus I think.)
When finally reassembling the switch, after making one replacement spring I got to do it again when the second one also achieved lift off.
The white or gray shaft that the button snaps on is the top of the seat reclining switch. That mechanism pivots on an "axle".
Those springs and contacts "snap" (maybe when they were new) into pockets on the bottom of the pivoting mechanism. They interface with two more tiny rockers that finally make contact with the contacts that control the seat motor. (Recline on my sport seats)
I had both of them fly out when changing the foam on one of my seats.
After hours of vacuuming the entire garage three + times, sifting through the dirt I only found the contacts and one spring. If you lose them you will have to buy an entire seat harne$$ to get replacements. I ended up re-winding a ballpoint spring on my lathe to make a replacement for the one that I lost. (Reached escape velocity and is orbiting Venus I think.)
When finally reassembling the switch, after making one replacement spring I got to do it again when the second one also achieved lift off.
I might upload a sketch/photo for you and maybe you can help me understand how they seat in the button. I do see to tiny circles on the button underside that they slide vertically into? Or are they suppsed to snap in horizontally?
Thanks again!
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Woody,
This has happened to me when I removed my seats to repaint the backs. Fortunately, the springs stayed in the holes and all I have to do is snap the black switch (i.e. ****) back on the main unit. fdb11 explained it a lot better than I could, but I call these types - "Rocker Switches" because the purpose of those springs is to bring the switch back to a center, neutral position. That's basically it. If it were me, I'd carefully insert the springs back into the main panel not the rocker plastic switch. They should lock in place. As fdb11 stated, be careful because they could become little rockets that could shoot out and be hard to locate.
This has happened to me when I removed my seats to repaint the backs. Fortunately, the springs stayed in the holes and all I have to do is snap the black switch (i.e. ****) back on the main unit. fdb11 explained it a lot better than I could, but I call these types - "Rocker Switches" because the purpose of those springs is to bring the switch back to a center, neutral position. That's basically it. If it were me, I'd carefully insert the springs back into the main panel not the rocker plastic switch. They should lock in place. As fdb11 stated, be careful because they could become little rockets that could shoot out and be hard to locate.
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Woody, This has happened to me when I removed my seats to repaint the backs. Fortunately, the springs stayed in the holes and all I have to do is snap the black switch (i.e. ****) back on the main unit. fdb11 explained it a lot better than I could, but I call these types - "Rocker Switches" because the purpose of those springs is to bring the switch back to a center, neutral position. That's basically it. If it were me, I'd carefully insert the springs back into the main panel not the rocker plastic switch. They should lock in place. As fdb11 stated, be careful because they could become little rockets that could shoot out and be hard to locate.
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Yep, I believe the metal tip should lock in the main unit's holes with the spring on the other end. Again, I can't be 100%, but that's the way I remember it. The spring end connects to the black ****. Should be in neutral position and slide back on. Hope it works!
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Awesome, thanks! I will try to fix it after this massive rainstorm passes over in a few days. Will update the post.
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Update on my ****
So, finally had a chance to look at this seat button thingy more carefully. And, I know you have all been anxiously awaiting my news.
I snapped the button on sans tiny springs and it still seems to function fine.
Will stress test it a bit, but I am not seeing how those tiny little springs do anything important.
EDIT - just re-read thread. Will be seeing if the purpose of the springs bringing the switch back to a neutral position holds water.
I snapped the button on sans tiny springs and it still seems to function fine.
Will stress test it a bit, but I am not seeing how those tiny little springs do anything important.
EDIT - just re-read thread. Will be seeing if the purpose of the springs bringing the switch back to a neutral position holds water.
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Woody, this is a common problem. Mine is busted too. That button, which should sell for about 35 cents, is IMPOSSIBLE to buy. The only way to fix it properly is a whole new switch assembly, for something like 500 smackers.
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Mine is busted as well. Passenger side. Must have happened at the car wash months ago, because the button and springs are completely missing.
And not feeling like spending 500 on a new switch or even $350 on a used one.
Didn't someone say they were gonna 3d print these things?
And not feeling like spending 500 on a new switch or even $350 on a used one.
Didn't someone say they were gonna 3d print these things?