Smog Geeks: Help needed: "OBDII Monitors Not Ready"
#31
Race Director
Thread Starter
If any of you are still up posting tonight.... should I take the car for a drive before the smog check to heat up the cats (but not whomping on it like I did last time)? Coulda sworn that last time I had my smog check someone told me to get the cats good and hot (which is the reason I drove it so hard before the test a couple days ago). The smog place is only a mile from my house, so they won't be at temp if I just drive straight over there.
#32
If any of you are still up posting tonight.... should I take the car for a drive before the smog check to heat up the cats (but not whomping on it like I did last time)? Coulda sworn that last time I had my smog check someone told me to get the cats good and hot (which is the reason I drove it so hard before the test a couple days ago). The smog place is only a mile from my house, so they won't be at temp if I just drive straight over there.
#34
Three Wheelin'
Also wanted to save my tires for next year
Last edited by JayG; 12-20-2016 at 12:02 PM.
#35
Three Wheelin'
#37
Race Director
I hope you don't get hosed by the STAR inspection - the visual inspections I've had the past few years have been VERY comprehensive...
#38
Race Director
The requirements are the same, but the STAR stations are held to a higher standard than non-STAR stations. The same STAR shop did both my 996 and my Corvette; since the 996 is (according to the paperwork) AWD, they did not dyno it. They DID dyno my Corvette.
My old guy plugged in the OBD-II, tested the gas cap, and sent me on my way; the STAR stations I've been to have guys with flashlights and inspection mirrors; they spent WAY too much time poking around.
Here's what BAR says about STAR stations:
"STAR stations are Smog Check stations that meet higher performance standards established by the Bureau of Automotive Repair."
And this is why you got sent to a STAR station:
"All 1999 model-year and older vehicles (the model years most likely to have high emissions) will be directed to STAR inspection stations."
Basically, BAR got wise to the fact that people have "friends" who were hooking them up; they started randomly performing roadside emissions testing. Mysteriously, 19% of cars that had recently passed a shop smog test failed roadside testing.
My old guy plugged in the OBD-II, tested the gas cap, and sent me on my way; the STAR stations I've been to have guys with flashlights and inspection mirrors; they spent WAY too much time poking around.
Here's what BAR says about STAR stations:
"STAR stations are Smog Check stations that meet higher performance standards established by the Bureau of Automotive Repair."
And this is why you got sent to a STAR station:
"All 1999 model-year and older vehicles (the model years most likely to have high emissions) will be directed to STAR inspection stations."
Basically, BAR got wise to the fact that people have "friends" who were hooking them up; they started randomly performing roadside emissions testing. Mysteriously, 19% of cars that had recently passed a shop smog test failed roadside testing.
#39
AutoX
I'm in the same boat.....need to find a place here in SD where I can actually do the drive cycle......ugh. Glad to hear it worked for you.
I was also told that re-flashing the ECU via Porsche dealer will achieve the desired result. Anyone know whether that's true or false?
I was also told that re-flashing the ECU via Porsche dealer will achieve the desired result. Anyone know whether that's true or false?
#40
Race Director
If any of you are still up posting tonight.... should I take the car for a drive before the smog check to heat up the cats (but not whomping on it like I did last time)? Coulda sworn that last time I had my smog check someone told me to get the cats good and hot (which is the reason I drove it so hard before the test a couple days ago). The smog place is only a mile from my house, so they won't be at temp if I just drive straight over there.
Just drive the car around to ensure the engine and converters are thoroughly up to temperature.
There is no real science to this: I spend at least 30 minutes just driving around with a mix of city and freeway driving before taking either of my cars in. I don't really hammer on the car nor do I drive it like a little old lady.
If you suspect the converters may not be working at their best my experience is a bit of an "Italian" tuneup can help. Couple of years ago my Boxster failed its smog test. The snifter found IIRC too high of CO2.
I immediately went to the dealer and spoke to both senior techs, separately.
Both gave me pretty much the same response and advice. Both senior techs were surprised the car failed and both advised me to take the car out and really drive it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
So I did but encountered a CHP cruiser on the way back home so had to cool my jets the last 15 miles or so. Still I maintained freeway speed though.
A few hours after the 1st test I had the car right back at the same station for a 2nd test and this time the car passed with no problems.
#42
Race Director
Thread Starter
Good news... PASSED!!!! Thanks for all the help, guys!!!
Was sweating it big time, since he failed the car in front of me for not having California certified cats.
Was sweating it big time, since he failed the car in front of me for not having California certified cats.
#43
Race Director
Man, you scored. Congrats! I stopped using aftermarket emissions-related stuff after having to take off my long-tube headers to get the 'Vette smogged a few years back. When I put 'em on, I figured worst case, I'd have to swap 'em out every 2 years...which sounded a lot less of a hassle than it turned out to be.
#44
Rennlist Member
Have you guys tried spark plug non-fouler's on the cat sensors? Worked for me on other cars with headers.
#45
Ready Status + Durametric Results
Hey guys,
So I'm having a similar issue with my SAI and O2 being in not ready status.
A little background about my car.
2006 Boxster S 3.2L
FVD Exhaust system
GMS Headers with 200 cell cats - has all 4 O2 sensors attached.
996 throttle body and distribution hose
ECU Tuning Group tune.
I had the car up in BC Canada since 2009 (although it is a US car) and had no problems passing the sniffer and obdII tests - both before and after all the mods except for the ECU tune. This is the first time I am taking the test with the tune on the car.
I went to get my emissions testing done last week in Texas and failed due to the 2 systems being in not-ready status. I figured it might have to do with the cat delete configured in the tune. I sent my ECU back to ETG in California and had them re-flash my ECU in order to re-enable the O2 sensors.
I cleared all codes and figured I would start fresh. I drove the car about 50 miles and attempted to follow the drive cycle you guys mentioned but it was really tough with the roads out here. Anyway, everything is in ready status now except for the Evap System (Which I know will turn on after some more driving), the SAI, and the O2 sensor. I can manually start the SAI using the Durametric system so I'm fairly positive the system is not bad; however, I'm not sure that I"m hearing the SAI start up when I cold start the engine.
I've attached a picture of the ready-status' from my DashCommand IOS app as well as another screen showing N/A for catalysts and O2 sensor - which i don't get. I would expect to see live results there.
I have also included a short video of a test I ran with the durametric system. If anyone can help interpret the video results and/or suggest I run any other tests, I would appreciate that.
Thanks!
So I'm having a similar issue with my SAI and O2 being in not ready status.
A little background about my car.
2006 Boxster S 3.2L
FVD Exhaust system
GMS Headers with 200 cell cats - has all 4 O2 sensors attached.
996 throttle body and distribution hose
ECU Tuning Group tune.
I had the car up in BC Canada since 2009 (although it is a US car) and had no problems passing the sniffer and obdII tests - both before and after all the mods except for the ECU tune. This is the first time I am taking the test with the tune on the car.
I went to get my emissions testing done last week in Texas and failed due to the 2 systems being in not-ready status. I figured it might have to do with the cat delete configured in the tune. I sent my ECU back to ETG in California and had them re-flash my ECU in order to re-enable the O2 sensors.
I cleared all codes and figured I would start fresh. I drove the car about 50 miles and attempted to follow the drive cycle you guys mentioned but it was really tough with the roads out here. Anyway, everything is in ready status now except for the Evap System (Which I know will turn on after some more driving), the SAI, and the O2 sensor. I can manually start the SAI using the Durametric system so I'm fairly positive the system is not bad; however, I'm not sure that I"m hearing the SAI start up when I cold start the engine.
I've attached a picture of the ready-status' from my DashCommand IOS app as well as another screen showing N/A for catalysts and O2 sensor - which i don't get. I would expect to see live results there.
I have also included a short video of a test I ran with the durametric system. If anyone can help interpret the video results and/or suggest I run any other tests, I would appreciate that.
Thanks!