M96 apparently has nothing on the BMW N63B4400
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Since we're in here ****ting on BMWs...
My e36 has been perfect, 150k on it and in 4 years the only thing that has failed was a rubber intake boot that was getting cracked. That's it. Car has been to HPDEs, autox, and DD and hasn't missed a beat.
So far the e90 hasn't eaten the rod bearings, although it does have some "new-bmw" issues like horrid brake shield? scraping noise at high lateral G, a power-mirror connector I had to clean, and the windshield trim is rotting after only 60k/8 years.
Only failure my 100k 996 has had was a crank position sensor I caused to fail by pinching the wire after doing an AOS.
You can't get old-car simplicity and running costs with new car performance and comfort. Or can you?
My e36 has been perfect, 150k on it and in 4 years the only thing that has failed was a rubber intake boot that was getting cracked. That's it. Car has been to HPDEs, autox, and DD and hasn't missed a beat.
So far the e90 hasn't eaten the rod bearings, although it does have some "new-bmw" issues like horrid brake shield? scraping noise at high lateral G, a power-mirror connector I had to clean, and the windshield trim is rotting after only 60k/8 years.
Only failure my 100k 996 has had was a crank position sensor I caused to fail by pinching the wire after doing an AOS.
You can't get old-car simplicity and running costs with new car performance and comfort. Or can you?
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No problems in either of the VQ35s I've had.
believe it or not... I own a 996 and an N63 BMW... I have to say that the BMW, luckily under warranty has been to the shop a fair amount of time. Mainly for small things but still a little annoying. The car is fantastic to drive but you read tons of horror stories about them. My car mainly had the valve seats replaced because of a leak causing over consumption of oil. When you would floor it, you could see a decent amount of smoke coming out the back.
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Again a shame considering my 2011 X5 drives fantastically.. I am dreading buying anything else because I love it so much.
for the BMW owners in this thread bragging about not having problems....just wait! it's coming...
my N62B44 V8 in my X5 required valve stem seal replacement at 100k miles. Yes, 32 of them. Needless to say, such a huge job that even the local Indy BMW shops didn't want to do it. So I did it myself. took 5 weeks. What else has failed on this 06? Brake booster, water pump, multiple oil seals, coolant hoses, window regulator, door handle carrier, LED headlight module......
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I love the BMW driving experience but hate the reliability.
my N62B44 V8 in my X5 required valve stem seal replacement at 100k miles. Yes, 32 of them. Needless to say, such a huge job that even the local Indy BMW shops didn't want to do it. So I did it myself. took 5 weeks. What else has failed on this 06? Brake booster, water pump, multiple oil seals, coolant hoses, window regulator, door handle carrier, LED headlight module......
the whole car is a f**king bomb. But I love driving it
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I love the BMW driving experience but hate the reliability.
Also EBC (Electronic Body Control?) errors, and the vehicle always thought the parking sensors and backup camera were broken even though they worked.
If I would have fixed everything that was wrong with the vehicle at 94k miles, it would have cost as much as I had paid for it--when everything worked. I once asked the BMW mechanic to diagnose all the crazy messages I got and he literally typed on the work order that "this is just the beginning of a long process". That's when I knew I needed to dump the thing.
Anecdotes or not, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that many BMWs turn into time bombs about the time you get 60k miles on them.
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Also, FWIW, I found this thread because I was thinking about buying a used M3 convertible.
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LOL you probably think the IMS bearing issues are just idiotic anecdotes, too. ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
on the flip side of the coin from my prior post, I'll also add that I raced a euro S50B32 engine in an E36 for several years. It was regularly taken to its 8000rpm redline, and never missed a beat. It was still running strong when I sold the car, and has continued to do so for the last few years.
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on the flip side of the coin from my prior post, I'll also add that I raced a euro S50B32 engine in an E36 for several years. It was regularly taken to its 8000rpm redline, and never missed a beat. It was still running strong when I sold the car, and has continued to do so for the last few years.
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I had an E60 M5 with 108K miles before I sold it. Not a single problem, but I did start it one day and got some catalytic converter errors, and decided it was time to part ways.
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With the cost of tech labor going upward to $150 - $200 an hour, repairing anything is just too expensive these days.
Lease is the only way to go, unless you can name me a car reliable up to 100k miles / 10 years.
I really can't think of any car at all that would fit the bill, may be the lexus SUVs, but man they are boring to drive ... may be the reason for their longevity
Lease is the only way to go, unless you can name me a car reliable up to 100k miles / 10 years.
I really can't think of any car at all that would fit the bill, may be the lexus SUVs, but man they are boring to drive ... may be the reason for their longevity
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Brands with the worst engine reliability:
10. Mitsubishi: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 59 (1.7%)
9. Volkswagen: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 52 (1.91%)
8. Renault: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 46 (2.13%)
7. BMW: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 45 (2.2%)
6. Peugeot: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 44 (2.26%)
5. Vauxhall: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 41 (2.46%)
4. Saab: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 40 (2.49%)
3. Mini: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 40 (2.51%)
2. Audi: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 27 (3.71%)
1. MG Rover: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 13 (7.88%)
Engine reliability - top 10 brands according to Warranty Direct:
1. Honda (failure rate: 1 in 344)
2. Toyota (failure rate: 1 in 171)
3. Mercedes-Benz (failure rate: 1 in 119)
4. Volvo (failure rate: 1 in 111)
5. Jaguar (failure rate: 1 in 103)
6. Lexus (failure rate: 1 in 101)
7. Fiat (failure rate: 1 in 85)
8. Ford (failure rate: 1 in 80)
9. Nissan (failure rate: 1 in 76)
10. Land Rover (failure rate: 1 in 72)
10. Mitsubishi: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 59 (1.7%)
9. Volkswagen: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 52 (1.91%)
8. Renault: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 46 (2.13%)
7. BMW: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 45 (2.2%)
6. Peugeot: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 44 (2.26%)
5. Vauxhall: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 41 (2.46%)
4. Saab: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 40 (2.49%)
3. Mini: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 40 (2.51%)
2. Audi: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 27 (3.71%)
1. MG Rover: Engine failure rate according to Warranty Direct: 1 in 13 (7.88%)
Engine reliability - top 10 brands according to Warranty Direct:
1. Honda (failure rate: 1 in 344)
2. Toyota (failure rate: 1 in 171)
3. Mercedes-Benz (failure rate: 1 in 119)
4. Volvo (failure rate: 1 in 111)
5. Jaguar (failure rate: 1 in 103)
6. Lexus (failure rate: 1 in 101)
7. Fiat (failure rate: 1 in 85)
8. Ford (failure rate: 1 in 80)
9. Nissan (failure rate: 1 in 76)
10. Land Rover (failure rate: 1 in 72)
This list needs to show specific outputs along with the reliability rating to see how good the engine's engineering really is. Of course there is bad engineering and bad manufacturing.
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Cars are complicated items, and they endure a lot of bull****. Hence you get issues. The more complicated you go, the more issues you have...this is not dependent on brand.
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Seriously, it's low maintenance at 12 years is why I ordered a new P!g instead of a X5 (though our e90 has been reliable for it's almost 10 years).
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I've had several BMWs.
A 98 740i that was plaqued with problems. Ended up selling it and shortly after the fan clutch seized and disintegrated the fan. In the process it put two fins through the hood and severed all the power steering and coolant hoses. (i felt terrible as it was a friend).
A beautiful Black CPO 525it that had an engine fire and burned to ground. Had just had it detailed so it went out on top.
I had an E46 330i convertible that had its share of oilers but was pretty reliable.
I still have a 2006 e90 330I with a 6sp and sports package. 140K and its been the most reliable and fun daily driver car I've ever had.
They know how to make a six in line. Their V8 have issues in my experience and observations.
A 98 740i that was plaqued with problems. Ended up selling it and shortly after the fan clutch seized and disintegrated the fan. In the process it put two fins through the hood and severed all the power steering and coolant hoses. (i felt terrible as it was a friend).
A beautiful Black CPO 525it that had an engine fire and burned to ground. Had just had it detailed so it went out on top.
I had an E46 330i convertible that had its share of oilers but was pretty reliable.
I still have a 2006 e90 330I with a 6sp and sports package. 140K and its been the most reliable and fun daily driver car I've ever had.
They know how to make a six in line. Their V8 have issues in my experience and observations.
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We're not collectively imagining that BMWs--especially the V8 models--have a much less reliable record than almost anything on the road.