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Old 10-26-2016 | 09:30 PM
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Just get one of these, just the look on your friends faces when you open a filter is worth the expense. Plus it works really well.

http://www.longacreracing.com/products.aspx?prodid=7630
Wow, $68? Would a can opener work? I've never tried opening one of those filters before.
Old 10-26-2016 | 10:17 PM
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Wow, $68? Would a can opener work? I've never tried opening one of those filters before.
I'm with you, I have this killer set of Ginsu knives...
Old 10-27-2016 | 06:09 AM
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I'm with you, I have this killer set of Ginsu knives...
Very funny - we're not loaded like you lot over there .....
Old 10-27-2016 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 318touring
Wow, $68? Would a can opener work? I've never tried opening one of those filters before.
I'm with you 318, while it is a lovely bit of machining, it is a bit excessive cost for what it does. although I haven't used on, I'm sure there is another solution. Would a pipe cutter work? A mini grinder and cutting wheel would work but would likely introduce a lot of filings.
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I'm with you 318, while it is a lovely bit of machining, it is a bit excessive cost for what it does. although I haven't used on, I'm sure there is another solution. Would a pipe cutter work? A mini grinder and cutting wheel would work but would likely introduce a lot of filings.
Tin snips - NZD35 -
- although he should be wearing better gloves

Hacksaw - will contaminate the inside too much?

Can opener?

If I earn my living by charging lots of $ hourly it will make complete sense to me - 30 mins cutting a tin can, or $68 and only need to spend 30 secs. No contest. But since this is a hobby, it's rather ridiculous :-)
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I'm sure you could find some appropriate tools at your local Bunnings Warehouse, and the gloves as well!
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I'm sure you could find some appropriate tools at your local Bunnings Warehouse, and the gloves as well!
That's my goal for this weekend!
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Gents, had the adaptor and Napa Gold filter installed today by the dealership.

My oil pressure didnt go over 4.5 even on full throttle?? Not really liking that.

Anyone else experience this? Is the K&N filter a solution to this?

Details are: 0w40 Mobil1 (Joe Gibbs isn't available here!)
Car was driven for around half an hour so should have been up to temp
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Originally Posted by dan_189
Gents, had the adaptor and Napa Gold filter installed today by the dealership.

My oil pressure didnt go over 4.5 even on full throttle?? Not really liking that.

Anyone else experience this? Is the K&N filter a solution to this?

Details are: 0w40 Mobil1 (Joe Gibbs isn't available here!)
Car was driven for around half an hour so should have been up to temp
I've used hundreds of the spin on filter adaptors with the Napa Gold filter (including the first one ever installed on any M96 engine) and have yet to see any oil pressure differences.

I think what you have seen is the 0/40 oil compared to whatever you had previously. I have seen differences when going from 5/40 down to 0/40, no matter what filter is used.
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Thanks Jake, I was previously using 0w40 also.

The OPC didnt have any 5w40 which is what I wanted (I have the LN dual row PRO IMS Retrofit) but settled for 0w40 again.

Any other theories? Slightly un-nerving from previously seeing 5 on full throttle before to only seeing 4.5 on full throttle. Car is an Australian delivered 2004 C2 Manual, 81k (kms) FWIW

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A full 5 bar of oil pressure on an engine that has achieved peak oil temperature is abnormal.

Typically when I find an engine with oil pressure this high, it is because the pressure relief inside the bottom of the factory oil filter canister has gotten weak, or failed. This moves unfiltered oil, in higher volumes past the original filter. This decreases filtration greatly, while elevating oil pressure 9falsely).

Today most of these canisters have gotten weaker springs, due to time in service, and heat, which kills the spring tension. I think what you've found, is that you had a part that needed to be changed, you just didn't know it...

Are you comparing this at the same oil temperature? If not, then you can't make the comparison. The 0/40 oil is very unstable with temperature deviations, even 10 degrees is normal to lose .5 bar oil pressure when OT is over 200F.

Also, the factory pressure gauge is marginal at best, and to gain any real back to back differences requires an instrument with much greater accuracy, as a stand alone unit.
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Thanks Jake, interesting to know.

The comparison was made in relatively the same outside temp. Just with the standard cluster gauge so not totally accurate data.

Just curious that I have seen the pressure at 5 but with the new style filter was a constant 4.5.

I think BADTAG noticed this as well? Is this just the way it's supposed to be?

On the plus side my old filter didn't have any shiny things in it
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Originally Posted by dan_189
Thanks Jake, interesting to know.

The comparison was made in relatively the same outside temp. Just with the standard cluster gauge so not totally accurate data.

Just curious that I have seen the pressure at 5 but with the new style filter was a constant 4.5.

I think BADTAG noticed this as well? Is this just the way it's supposed to be?

On the plus side my old filter didn't have any shiny things in it
Ambient temperature, and coolant temperature both are part of the equation that make up oil temperature, but they don't make a 1:1 impact.

To compare the oil pressure differences you'd need the same oil temperature, and ultimately the exact same oil. (Without an oil change).
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Thanks Jake, I'll keep an eye on it it is a very good looking part too
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Dan - sounds the same as my experience. When I first installed the adapter and used a Napa filter I was concerned with the pressure difference. I called LN and was told this was due to the lack of the bypass valve as Jake mentioned. This pretty much stayed the same when I put the K&P Filter on as well so its definitely due to the adapter and not filter dependant. I am going on 3 year and 30,000mi now with no issues so if there was cause for concern it would have happened by now


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