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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DTMiller
The rest is just bull**** to make people feel better/worse about themselves/others.
Just because it's true doesn't mean you have to call us out on it. Take out all the BS and the forum's post count would drop my 90%! Where's the fun in that?
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 07:59 PM
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Go back and reread the reviews when the 996's first came out. While the press was busy RAVING about the "best 911 ever," the air-cooled crowd was stringing together meandering paragraphs where they tried - and failed - to explain how a 911 that was faster and more capable in every measurable way compared to the models it replaced was somehow a piece of crap that deserved to be hated.

*shrug* A quartz Seiko keeps better time than most Rolexes. That means what? Nothing, really. If what you care about is an accurate timepiece, the Seiko is best. If you care less about accuracy and you are a fan of handcrafted analog watches, obviously the Rolex is best. The 996 is a Seiko. It's technically better than the old version in all the ways you can represent with numbers, but some people will hate it because it's new and different.
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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Couldn't have said it any better. A 911 is a 911 is a 911. It's just what you as the owner want out of it and want it to do. There is never a bad choice unless it's not a 911.

Originally Posted by DTMiller
It's a 911, it will be really fun to drive and no one without a car forum login will know the difference between your current car and a 996. The rest is just bull**** to make people feel better/worse about themselves/others.
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMystro
Couldn't have said it any better. A 911 is a 911 is a 911. It's just what you as the owner want out of it and want it to do. There is never a bad choice unless it's not a 911.
So true. Both cars are absolutely fantastic. Drive a few and you'll find the right one!
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 11:18 PM
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As a long time aircooled owner and water cooled genius, you'd be a fool not to buy this car:
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-4/

The 993 is a great car - Having owned 2, a 96 C4 and later a 95 C2, I can say they are a great driving and great looking machine.

IMO think 996 C4S is better looking and better driving car. The C4S is also better driving than my old 1959 sunroof coupe

Funny I hear all the negative Shiz about 996 but never the 993 issue regarding clogged air passages and the $6500 top end rebuild to remedy. I had to do this repair on my 1996 C4. CEL light comes on and no passy emissions.

All the best to those sucking air and spitting water
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by groovzilla
As a long time aircooled owner and water cooled genius, you'd be a fool not to buy this car:
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-4/

The 993 is a great car - Having owned 2, a 96 C4 and later a 95 C2, I can say they are a great driving and great looking machine.

IMO think 996 C4S is better looking and better driving car. The C4S is also better driving than my old 1959 sunroof coupe

Funny I hear all the negative Shiz about 996 but never the 993 issue regarding clogged air passages and the $6500 top end rebuild to remedy. I had to do this repair on my 1996 C4. CEL light comes on and no passy emissions.

All the best to those sucking air and spitting water
because in a lot of cases, a few hours with some brake cable, carb cleaner, and some pressurized air will clear up the SAI passages.

some things seem to have changed since you owned your 993.

And hows this, clogged SAI ports will cause a check engine light. Compare that to IMS failure, D-chunk, Cracked heads, destroyed tensioner pads, etc etc etc (all the way up to the 26 or more failure modes). In terms of money and aggravation, I know which one I would take any day of the week.
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by groovzilla
As a long time aircooled owner and water cooled genius, you'd be a fool not to buy this car:
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-4/
Groov, Let me get this straight, looking at the five service invoices, it appears you've put more than $17,000 into this car on top of what you paid for it, correct??? Yikes!
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Compare that to IMS failure, D-chunk, Cracked heads, destroyed tensioner pads, etc etc etc (all the way up to the 26 or more failure modes). In terms of money and aggravation, I know which one I would take any day of the week.
The Boxster?
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by b3freak
Groov, Let me get this straight, looking at the five service invoices, it appears you've put more than $17,000 into this car on top of what you paid for it, correct??? Yikes!
Groove would never do that on a 996 to my best guess. It's probably the receipts of the PO.
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
*shrug* A quartz Seiko keeps better time than most Rolexes. That means what? Nothing, really. If what you care about is an accurate timepiece, the Seiko is best. If you care less about accuracy and you are a fan of handcrafted analog watches, obviously the Rolex is best. The 996 is a Seiko. It's technically better than the old version in all the ways you can represent with numbers, but some people will hate it because it's new and different.
Good point! My wife bought me a Rolex for $2300 and when I took it to the Rolex dealer he pointed out, that it was still being made and now worth more than $8,000 new. He would have easily given me double what my wife paid it. Did I sell it? Nope, it's still on my arm keeping *perfect* time. Can't say the same for my Seikos.
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by b3freak
Good point! My wife bought me a Rolex for $2300 and when I took it to the Rolex dealer he pointed out, that it was still being made and now worth more than $8,000 new. He would have easily given me double what my wife paid it. Did I sell it? Nope, it's still on my arm keeping *perfect* time. Can't say the same for my Seikos.
I've never seen a Rolex for $2300, except maybe one of JI's ones.

With that said, anyone is kidding themselves in trying to justify a non COSC watch being able to keep time better than a $15 quartz Seiko or Timex.

Whether any of us like to admit it or not, it's really just bling man's jewelry. I'm in the same boat. Wearing my BR-02 today. I've thinned the herd quite a bit but been there and done that. My next one will be a Blancpain since I never had one before.
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by alpine003
I've never seen a Rolex for $2300, except maybe one of JI's ones.
You won't and that's the point. And yes, mine is real Alpine... ain't got *time* for no Folex watch! hahaha
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:50 AM
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Both are Rolex models, it's just the 996 and later water cooled models are a Rolex with the new CALIBRE 3255 movement. I am a (Rolex, VC, Pam, Omega , Ball, etc..) WIS as well



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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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oh god, now we're watch bragging.

sigh.
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
oh god, now we're watch bragging.

sigh.
I know, some people are so annoying.
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