996 vs. 986 Handling
06-26-2016 | 08:52 AM
#62
Rennlist Member
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 270
From: Edmond, OK
Got any video of track times to back up that statement? I mean it seems completely off topic and irrelevant to a comparison of arguably two of the top handling cars of all time. But it would be interesting to see if your claim had any merit.
06-26-2016 | 09:18 AM
#63
Rennlist Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 337
From: Summit Point, probably
^^ I, for one, was HIGHLY insulted, defamed, disparaged, denigrated, maligned, libeled, slandered, and calumniated. This is despicable, atrocious, outrageous, contemptible, abominable, and reprehensible,You can expect a stern letter from my attorney shortly, as soon as he sobers up.
Let's see.... 0.3 seconds faster with 58 more HP. OK, yeah, you win.
P.S., How exactly do you "Cuda" at the track?
I haven't noticed you doing it. I will pay more attention next time. 
06-26-2016 | 09:19 AM
#64
Rennlist Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 337
From: Summit Point, probably
He means when the brakes fail loading it off the trailer.
06-26-2016 | 12:21 PM
#66
Race Director
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 11,353
Likes: 463
From: Oceanside/Vista (N. San Diego County), CA
06-26-2016 | 02:33 PM
#67
Burning Brakes
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,158
Likes: 22
Another interesting variant of this question is if you compare Boxsters and 911s for the same money, meaning the Boxster is newer, probably a new generation. Now it gets quite complicated.
Or you put the price difference into a refreshed and improved suspension and a budget for always-fresh tires and light wheels.
Or you put the price difference into a refreshed and improved suspension and a budget for always-fresh tires and light wheels.
06-26-2016 | 04:30 PM
#68
Instructor
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 205
Likes: 2
From: Arizona
So you west coasters were just busting, my apologies. Happy to hear you guys have that level of camaraderie.
C2 Vs. C4 another interesting discussion. My mechanic tells me that he has seen failures to the differentials of 996 C4's used on track. The newer cars with electronic AWD may be different. Your thoughts?
C2 Vs. C4 another interesting discussion. My mechanic tells me that he has seen failures to the differentials of 996 C4's used on track. The newer cars with electronic AWD may be different. Your thoughts?
I know there are several RLers that track their C4Ss and I don't remember them saying they removed the front diff.
06-26-2016 | 04:40 PM
#69
Racer
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 387
Likes: 18
From: SF
Another interesting variant of this question is if you compare Boxsters and 911s for the same money, meaning the Boxster is newer, probably a new generation. Now it gets quite complicated.
Or you put the price difference into a refreshed and improved suspension and a budget for always-fresh tires and light wheels.
Or you put the price difference into a refreshed and improved suspension and a budget for always-fresh tires and light wheels.
06-26-2016 | 05:13 PM
#70
Rennlist Member
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 270
From: Edmond, OK
Removing front diff is next on Vandersmith's list I believe for his C4S. AWD can be good while learning but RWD is preferred for tracking a car.
06-26-2016 | 11:35 PM
#71
Thread Starter
Rennlist Member
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 159
Likes: 0
From: NY
I agree, a 987 generation Boxster/Cayman S vs a 996 would be close. Engine, tire size, suspension components would make this very interesting. On track with my 986 I need to try extra hard to keep up with the 987's circulating. Besides being outgunned by nearly 100HP I am running 17inch tires to their 19's.
In a supersized world there still might be something to be said about doing more with less.
In a supersized world there still might be something to be said about doing more with less.
06-27-2016 | 05:45 PM
#72
Burning Brakes
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,158
Likes: 22
I agree, a 987 generation Boxster/Cayman S vs a 996 would be close. Engine, tire size, suspension components would make this very interesting. On track with my 986 I need to try extra hard to keep up with the 987's circulating. Besides being outgunned by nearly 100HP I am running 17inch tires to their 19's.
In a supersized world there still might be something to be said about doing more with less.
In a supersized world there still might be something to be said about doing more with less.
06-27-2016 | 06:44 PM
#74
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,946
Likes: 18
.