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Well guess nothing is salvagable. I got the car towed home and put in the garage yesterday. Looked at the box of parts and engine components, so additional pics.
Crankshaft is broken as in half, all valves bent as previously stated so no head salvage, camshafts are hit, block is cracked....the list goes on....
I didn't bother to try to ascertain what actually went on because everything is broken so it would be a waste of time trying to do a forensics job. It really doesn't matter but thought some additional pics would be interesting to some here.
Ouch! That's hard to watch. So what engine are you gonna put it in?
Originally Posted by jyoteen
Well guess nothing is salvagable. I got the car towed home and put in the garage yesterday. Looked at the box of parts and engine components, so additional pics.
Crankshaft is broken as in half, all valves bent as previously stated so no head salvage, camshafts are hit, block is cracked....the list goes on....
I didn't bother to try to ascertain what actually went on because everything is broken so it would be a waste of time trying to do a forensics job. It really doesn't matter but thought some additional pics would be interesting to some here.
You know, I would love to put the Raby engine in it. I realize that he doesn't warranty the engine if it goes on track and I don't blame him. I would imagine that he builds them well but no one warrants anything if you put it to track duty.
However, my biggest stumbling block is the cost. I subscribe to the quality costs money equation (I am a designer so i'm always bitching about how people don't value design). But I also have to consider that even if his engine build is solid, what if I have an accident. Then the car is worthless pretty much again.
If I source an engine from a crashed car, it is an unknown so I would have to do a tear down anyway and upgrade all the parts. Since NOTHING is salvageable off this engine, I have to consider that I need to get all the ancillary parts which add up (water pump, hoses, Motorsport AOS, etc. So tack on another 5k minimum on top of the whatever engine)
Really a tough place to be in. It's painful to be emotionally attached to this car. It's like the car is your first true love and it just filed divorce papers.
I love the pure design of this car (why I bought it over the C2 which I went in to buy in the first place). I love the new Caymans but damn, that's a rich price point. And used porsches? Again with the dice roll.
Originally Posted by Ahsai
Ouch! That's hard to watch. So what engine are you gonna put it in?
However, my biggest stumbling block is the cost. I subscribe to the quality costs money equation (I am a designer so i'm always bitching about how people don't value design). But I also have to consider that even if his engine build is solid, what if I have an accident. Then the car is worthless pretty much again.
Really a tough place to be in. It's painful to be emotionally attached to this car. It's like the car is your first true love and it just filed divorce papers.
I love the pure design of this car (why I bought it over the C2 which I went in to buy in the first place). I love the new Caymans but damn, that's a rich price point. And used porsches? Again with the dice roll.[/QUOTE]
That's the beauty of investing in upgrading your engine, as most of us realize the value is in the engine. If you have a accident & the 996 is totaled you buy it from Ins. co & either transfer YOUR engine to next 996 or sell it. Usually the engine is not damaged unless someone rearends you very hard, in which case you show your receipts & make them pay!
Personally I think you have the best looking 996,but i may be prejudice for the color.
To jyoteen, yeah I hear you. The thing is even a quality rebuild for a DD will be expensive, let alone a track ready version. The new parts are just too damn expensive from Porsche and sleeving, imsb, and head work all add up fast.
Btw, the oil pan looks like there was no oil in it in your photo. Was it wiped down?
Damn, the carnage looked like you were in top of 3rd gear and downshifted to first or something like that.
Weigh all your options and be patient until something comes up. There's always things popping out of the woodwork at various times. You just have to keep your eyes open and wait for it.
My eyeball engineering guess would be that the engine ran out of oil at high RPMs and at least one con rod bearing spun until it welded itself to the crank. Then, the rod broke and the rest is history. The blue rod cap is what I based my guess on. One of the thrust bearings look good so if the other one looked the same, crank end play wasn't the problem.
This is tough situation to be in, since nothing is usable from the original long block. Either you sell it as-is for a few grand of at least buy a used engine but neither of them will be a cheap exercise.
There was oil. It's just everything is separated out.
I in fact checked the oil before that session as well. As I do every session.
Originally Posted by Ahsai
To jyoteen, yeah I hear you. The thing is even a quality rebuild for a DD will be expensive, let alone a track ready version. The new parts are just too damn expensive from Porsche and sleeving, imsb, and head work all add up fast.
Btw, the oil pan looks like there was no oil in it in your photo. Was it wiped down?
I'm sure you checked oil before the session. If you look at the boss of the drain plug, you'll see that it's raised so you would expect some residual oil at the edge after you drain the oil. It's almost like someone cleaned up the oil pan first, then dump all those parts onto it. I'm not trying to build a conspiracy theory. It just looks odd to me if you tell me that's how it looked when it was dropped from the engine.
Originally Posted by jyoteen
There was oil. It's just everything is separated out.
I in fact checked the oil before that session as well. As I do every session.
For the crankshaft longitudinal thrust shim to be found in the sump, generally you have a two piece crankshaft as an added trophy.. Thats a real colorful failure every time..
04-24-2016, 02:10 PM
