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Old 08-23-2016, 09:01 PM
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Just had my cable replaced it appears to have some rubber protection at the starter end. Not sure what the part number is though.
Old 10-01-2016, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by islaTurbine
01 and 03 will both work. Both will eventually die again in a few years.
What is causing these cables to corrode?

I have means of making such cables. This one looks simple enough, maybe I should make my own is the factory ones are of such poor design that they keep failing.

Is there a writeup somewhere on R&R of the cable?
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Originally Posted by alabamatoy
What is causing these cables to corrode?

I have means of making such cables. This one looks simple enough, maybe I should make my own is the factory ones are of such poor design that they keep failing.

Is there a writeup somewhere on R&R of the cable?
Heat and oxygen is my guess.
Old 10-02-2016, 12:12 AM
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And moisture= corrosion
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The revised cable has protective rubber end to prevent corrosion
Old 10-02-2016, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dan_189
The revised cable has protective rubber end to prevent corrosion
I hope you're right but that rubber cap didn't do much for mine. -03 cable removed from a So Cal/Texas car with about 68,000 miles. I peeled off the cap prior to taking the pic.

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Eeeep!

Mines an 04' but it originally didn't have the same rubber cap this new cable appears to have
Old 10-02-2016, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by islaTurbine
Heat and oxygen is my guess.
Of course, at some level, this is what causes everything to eventually decay, but why is this cable failing so much more than others? Insufficient gauge? Poor crimping (ie current bump or spike in one location)? Poor quality materials? Or most likely, dissimilar metals (poor material selection) that results in galvanic corrosion, exacerbated by the current and heat.

From the pictures, it looks like it would be easy enough to use two separate cables rather than the complicated piece with two different gauges connected to the same lug.

My 00 cabby is exhibiting the usual low voltage when the AC and other accoutrements are turned on, and weak starting. Im going to look at replacing with some higher-gauge (lower numerical) and two separate cables to see if I can make it a) cheaper, b) lower resistance and c) last longer.

Also, along the same lines, has anyone used one of these? 240amp direct replacement. You can never have enough amps....
Old 10-03-2016, 02:28 AM
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they should have used shrink tubing with wax to seal the ends.
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Old thread, but I just used the hot water trick and it was very easy. I was careful enough and was able to save the original cable plastic end also. Mine had zero corrosion and looked fine ('99 cabriolet). I did not remove the alternator either. The alternator cable attachment nut is tricky to get to, but a 13mm socket on a 1/4" drive ratchet worked fine. I changed the starter motor while I was in there.
Old 06-12-2017, 08:17 PM
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^^ same here. Just went through this last week & used the hot water trick - worked very well. I did remove the alternator, which was an exciting way to wear out my hands. Unfortunately, I pulled one of the vacuum lines out of the 3-way connection point. So the 996 is resting until I can get it cleaned up.
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I mentioned that I replaced my starter, and in fact that was the reason I replaced the cable, slow to no hot starts with the occasional screeching starter motor.

The new starter came from Amazon; brand new Bosch # SR0808N, with part number 996 604 103 01; $207 2 day delivery. Same exact starter that Porsche used, but $1,000 cheaper than a Porsche branded one.

** Update - I dissected my old starter, the screeching is caused by a dried out bearing in the end of the starter furthest from the flywheel. maybe when hot this dried up bearing creates enough friction to prevent the starter from spinning? Maybe it's a bad cable, hard to say.**

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Old 06-27-2017, 02:03 AM
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photo of old starter cable near the connection to the starter. Hot start issue appears to be resolved.

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Did this on the weekend with a forum member, can confirm the box removal trick worked perfectly thanks again for the tip!
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mine still has a crappy hot start...Guess it's time for a new starter


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