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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 01:45 AM
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I know, I know, should've opted for the 6 speed...

So any tiptronic owners have any experience or knowledge of improving shift times and responsiveness on these?

I know this is no F1 hydraulic machine but I was wondering maybe there was a software laying around somewhere that would improve responsiveness and manual shifting?

Maybe not an ECU flash, I doubt there even is such a thing, but maybe a hack?

I don't doubt this post to be any less than comical, but any and all input would be appreciated.

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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 08:50 AM
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If you have a mk1 then you are dealing with 1990's technology with I think a half dozen shift programs. If you have a mk2 you are dealing with arguably the best automatic transmission available before the pdk - it was built by Mercedes for their amg cars and has a couple dozen shift programs that learns your style


On my daily commute it can be a bit docile but by my third lap on a DE on the track it completely changes character and I find it as fast or faster than if I were manually shifting

Some people have installed a sprint booster to generate faster throttle response but I have personally removed mine as it was messing up the transmission shifts

Btw if you haven't done so change transmission fluid every 60 to 80k miles
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 08:57 AM
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The answer is yes. I believe evolution motor sports has a software upgrade. It even has launch control. There is always hope. I think you send in your ECU and its like 450? I can't remember exactly.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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If you have a mk1 then you are dealing with 1990's technology with I think a half dozen shift programs. If you have a mk2 you are dealing with arguably the best automatic transmission available before the pdk - it was built by Mercedes for their amg cars and has a couple dozen shift programs that learns your style


On my daily commute it can be a bit docile but by my third lap on a DE on the track it completely changes character and I find it as fast or faster than if I were manually shifting

Some people have installed a sprint booster to generate faster throttle response but I have personally removed mine as it was messing up the transmission shifts

Btw if you haven't done so change transmission fluid every 60 to 80k miles
Thanks for that,

I have an MKI, and I also have the sprint booster but do not want to install it on the same transmission setup.

There's a lot of debate about trans fluid, I am very **** about that but others on here, and the Facebook 996 Rennlisters group say not to change your trans fluid (which I cannot understand why)...but if I were to send my ECU in then I certainly would go against their advice.

If you have a transmission fluid pump is it a hard process?
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 09:59 AM
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The answer is yes. I believe evolution motor sports has a software upgrade. It even has launch control. There is always hope. I think you send in your ECU and its like 450? I can't remember exactly.
Thanks for that as well, I just sent them an email about it. They have a bunch of ECU flashes on their website but couldn't find anything about the tiptronic.

Its always good for there to be hope, even with 1990's technology lol
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ReidN
The answer is yes. I believe evolution motor sports has a software upgrade. It even has launch control. There is always hope. I think you send in your ECU and its like 450? I can't remember exactly.
I think the software is only for the 996TT but I could be wrong, I checked other threads and 6speedonline and thats all that was coming up.

Gonna sit it out and wait for EVOMS.

Thanks again
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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Same question here... I've been wondering if the Sprintbooster is worth the coin to wake up my MKII.

When I did my trans fluid and filter change I didn't notice a performance change, but it did get rid of the clunking noise when moving into 1st gear.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 01:13 PM
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PDK swap anyone?! Lol
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 02:05 PM
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turbo tip is great but I never drive it in auto, I have no familiarity with the older ZF tip.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AfroThunder
Thanks for that,

There's a lot of debate about trans fluid, I am very **** about that but others on here, and the Facebook 996 Rennlisters group say not to change your trans fluid
I saw that posted on Facebook too but I've not been able to find anything here about it being a bad idea. I know it's surprisingly a pretty complicated task to DIY so I would have my indy do it.
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Originally Posted by mcbit
turbo tip is great but I never drive it in auto, I have no familiarity with the older ZF tip.
McBit - Can you elaborate? I have heard that the 996TT tip is different from the NA tip. I see some people say they have a lot more shift programs. then others say it is the same transmission.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kcattorney
McBit - Can you elaborate? I have heard that the 996TT tip is different from the NA tip. I see some people say they have a lot more shift programs. then others say it is the same transmission.
kc, my understanding is that the new Diamler-Chrysler Tiptronic was first used in the 2001 996 Turbo, and was also used in all 996s from 2002 on.
It is a different unit than the earlier ZF built units, although the way it mechanically functions is pretty much the same.
It does have many more shift programs, the case is physically different in shape (slightly), and people who have experience with both seem to report that the newer unit is noticeably better.
I have read that the turbo trans is no different than the NA trans (aside from gear ratios I believe). My guess is that there are differences in ATF pump pressures, throttle modulation, etc. to account for the differences in amount of power and how instantaneously power is made.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:25 AM
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Spokayman is pretty much correct, the DC box is also a stronger box which was used in a lot of the Merc AMG autos.

I've had the same box in both the C4S and the turbo and there is no discernible difference in application.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:38 AM
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Evolution motorsports has it. It is 995. And you need to send them your ECU.
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drive in manual mode and keep the rpms above 2500 is the best and cheapest way I know
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