99 996 C2 88k cold start noise
#16
Instructor
Thread Starter
Ok, I have made another very short video in which you can hear a little of the knocking sound. The engine recorded here, is not completely cold but you can still hear the sound I am wondering about.
Thanks to all,
Bob
Thanks to all,
Bob
#18
Ok, so based on your testing the noise is not generated by any of the pulleys. It's unlikely the cats (like others have commented) but you can use a long screwdriver to verify when the noise occurs. Just touch the cat with the screwdriver and put your ear against the screwdriver. If it's the cat, it will be very obvious. Also, have you checked if all the spark plugs are tight?
#19
Race Director
If an engine ticks cold with thick oil that even though cold flows very quickly -- in just a moment -- throughout the engine at cold engine start generally it will tick with the engine hot and the oil pressure -- at idle at least -- down to may be less than 2 bars.
Not sure I'd advise you use a rubber mallet, unless you are gentle with it. Use your fist to thump the exhaust system listening for a loose brick, or anything loose, really.
The converter brick is rather delicate and if a brick isn't loose now it may be after you go at the exhaust with a mallet, even a rubber one.
My Boxster had a deep knocking noise that I attributed to a crankshaft with excessive end play. Figured with over 280K miles on the engine things were wearing out.
But the deep knocking noise would go away as the engine (and exhaust) warmed up. Once fully hot the car buzzed like it had a loose heat shield but there was no knocking.
I had the car in for something else and I asked the tech to ID the noise and fix the loose shields. Frankly I had my doubts the buzzing noise was really shields, but I wanted the tech to tell me that.
And he did.
So while he still had the car I picked up a pair of used exhaust manifolds at a salvage business. Before handing over my AMEX card I gave them the shake test and both were quiet. I held on to them too after I gave them the shake test cause sometimes people treat these rather rough.
The tech installed the used manifolds and the buzzing noise was gone, but so too was the knocking noise. Cold the brick knocked about then when hot I guess there was less clearance so all it could do was buzz.
I suspected the brick was the culprit for some time as every once in a while the CEL would come on -- sometimes I'd go months and months with no CEL -- and the error code (P0430) indicated something was amiss with one converter. However, the engine and its converters still passed its emission testing every 2 years.
But I sure enjoy the peace and quiet of the "new" converters.
#20
Rennlist Member
As described in this morning's video that I made, my C2 is making a little noise for about 1 minute total when starting cold. One thing I forgot to mention in the video is that one of the chain tensioners was replaced by ROCS in NJ last year along with a new coolant reservoir and cap. Being the 5 chain engine design (M96 Mk1) I don't know which tensioner it was.
Please have a look at the youtube video and thanks so much in advance for your comments.
Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlG-...ature=youtu.be
Please have a look at the youtube video and thanks so much in advance for your comments.
Bob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlG-...ature=youtu.be
I'm not stressing about it, but will keep an ear on it.
#21
Same noise after chain tensioner replaced...
Hello all;
I am hearing same noise just for 3-4 seconds @ cold start.
It occurred after new tensioners inserted.
We could not be sure because here are no authorized dealer or service.
So we ordered chain tensioners with Engine type, not VIN or Engine No.
Could anyone help me in this forum can tell me exact tensioner part number for my engine?
And also place of that tensioner?
My car is 99 - 996 Carrera2 3.4
I am hearing same noise just for 3-4 seconds @ cold start.
It occurred after new tensioners inserted.
We could not be sure because here are no authorized dealer or service.
So we ordered chain tensioners with Engine type, not VIN or Engine No.
Could anyone help me in this forum can tell me exact tensioner part number for my engine?
And also place of that tensioner?
My car is 99 - 996 Carrera2 3.4