Nice to return to your car to find this damage and no note
01-28-2015, 07:05 PM
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Man, that's rough. It sucks how mostly decent people get shady when money is involved.
Cue Macster's recommendation to use a Celette bench.
Just kidding, Macster.
When a guy in a truck backed into my 911, one of my employees kept him there while another ran to get me - otherwise, I suspect I would have been in the same boat.
Cue Macster's recommendation to use a Celette bench.
Just kidding, Macster.
When a guy in a truck backed into my 911, one of my employees kept him there while another ran to get me - otherwise, I suspect I would have been in the same boat.
The recommendation to use a Celette Bench is from Porsche. This is covered in Porsche guidelines for the proper repair of these cars.
If a shop skips this step unless the damage is so very slight -- confined to just plastic bumper cover damage -- it is an indication the repair may not be a thorough as it should be, and the results may not be as good as they would have been otherwise.
In the case of sheet metal being bent that I believe is a good indication sufficient force was involved to at least check some of the closest hard point locations to the area of impact/damage on a Celette Bench to ensure the car is "straight".
While the old eyeball may be good enough for Ford Festiva repairs it is not good enough, or should not be good enough, for Porsche repairs. Remember, we are not paying Festiva insurance premiums, but Porsche insurance premiums. No one wants to or likes to or enjoys filing a claim, but if it is necessary then every effort should be made to ensure one gets a proper Porsche level of repair for his Porsche level insurance premiums.
If the other driver is at fault then I have no qualms about unleashing whatever is within my legal power to unleash in order to get a proper and correct repair of my Porsche. If you don't want the wrath of God coming down on your *ss don't run into my cars.
01-28-2015, 07:31 PM
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Kidding or not, just so it is clear, my often stated advice to get the car to a Celette Bench was not hatched from my fertile imagination. The recommendation to use a Celette Bench is from Porsche. This is covered in Porsche guidelines for the proper repair of these cars. If a shop skips this step unless the damage is so very slight -- confined to just plastic bumper cover damage -- it is an indication the repair may not be a thorough as it should be, and the results may not be as good as they would have been otherwise. In the case of sheet metal being bent that I believe is a good indication sufficient force was involved to at least check some of the closest hard point locations to the area of impact/damage on a Celette Bench to ensure the car is "straight". While the old eyeball may be good enough for Ford Festiva repairs it is not good enough, or should not be good enough, for Porsche repairs. Remember, we are not paying Festiva insurance premiums, but Porsche insurance premiums. No one wants to or likes to or enjoys filing a claim, but if it is necessary then every effort should be made to ensure one gets a proper Porsche level of repair for his Porsche level insurance premiums. If the other driver is at fault then I have no qualms about unleashing whatever is within my legal power to unleash in order to get a proper and correct repair of my Porsche. If you don't want the wrath of God coming down on your *ss don't run into my cars.
01-28-2015, 07:33 PM
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Ah Roo, that stinks and sorry to see this. Even though it will be brought back to where it was before the incident it is still crappy to see the results of someone's carelessness. I try and avoid "common areas" in parking lots as much as possible but sometimes it can't be avoided. Hope it is repaired to your satisfaction.
01-29-2015, 12:45 AM
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That must be one of the only two places in UK not covered by CCTV.
01-29-2015, 01:15 AM
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Kidding or not, just so it is clear, my often stated advice to get the car to a Celette Bench was not hatched from my fertile imagination.
The recommendation to use a Celette Bench is from Porsche. This is covered in Porsche guidelines for the proper repair of these cars.
If a shop skips this step unless the damage is so very slight -- confined to just plastic bumper cover damage -- it is an indication the repair may not be a thorough as it should be, and the results may not be as good as they would have been otherwise.
In the case of sheet metal being bent that I believe is a good indication sufficient force was involved to at least check some of the closest hard point locations to the area of impact/damage on a Celette Bench to ensure the car is "straight".
While the old eyeball may be good enough for Ford Festiva repairs it is not good enough, or should not be good enough, for Porsche repairs. Remember, we are not paying Festiva insurance premiums, but Porsche insurance premiums. No one wants to or likes to or enjoys filing a claim, but if it is necessary then every effort should be made to ensure one gets a proper Porsche level of repair for his Porsche level insurance premiums.
If the other driver is at fault then I have no qualms about unleashing whatever is within my legal power to unleash in order to get a proper and correct repair of my Porsche. If you don't want the wrath of God coming down on your *ss don't run into my cars.
The recommendation to use a Celette Bench is from Porsche. This is covered in Porsche guidelines for the proper repair of these cars.
If a shop skips this step unless the damage is so very slight -- confined to just plastic bumper cover damage -- it is an indication the repair may not be a thorough as it should be, and the results may not be as good as they would have been otherwise.
In the case of sheet metal being bent that I believe is a good indication sufficient force was involved to at least check some of the closest hard point locations to the area of impact/damage on a Celette Bench to ensure the car is "straight".
While the old eyeball may be good enough for Ford Festiva repairs it is not good enough, or should not be good enough, for Porsche repairs. Remember, we are not paying Festiva insurance premiums, but Porsche insurance premiums. No one wants to or likes to or enjoys filing a claim, but if it is necessary then every effort should be made to ensure one gets a proper Porsche level of repair for his Porsche level insurance premiums.
If the other driver is at fault then I have no qualms about unleashing whatever is within my legal power to unleash in order to get a proper and correct repair of my Porsche. If you don't want the wrath of God coming down on your *ss don't run into my cars.
01-29-2015, 11:23 AM
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Mac, this is a 996! NOT a 60-70k Porsche! I would just take it to a TRUSTED Body Man & NOT go to some Porsche Specialist & let them RIP you Another BIG One! Also, the First thing you need to do is see what your Deductible is cause IF you file a claim EXPECT that Ins. to Go UP even more! I Don't know about your driving record, but i'm NOT Paying out MY butt just because it's a Porsche! it's a 996 for heavens sake!
01-29-2015, 12:09 PM
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Ah Roo, that stinks and sorry to see this. Even though it will be brought back to where it was before the incident it is still crappy to see the results of someone's carelessness. I try and avoid "common areas" in parking lots as much as possible but sometimes it can't be avoided. Hope it is repaired to your satisfaction.
01-29-2015, 01:13 PM
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Ah yes, the Porsche magnet. It seems to draw cars from the populated part of the parking lot to just inside door ding range.
01-29-2015, 01:18 PM
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Mac, this is a 996! NOT a 60-70k Porsche! I would just take it to a TRUSTED Body Man & NOT go to some Porsche Specialist & let them RIP you Another BIG One! Also, the First thing you need to do is see what your Deductible is cause IF you file a claim EXPECT that Ins. to Go UP even more! I Don't know about your driving record, but i'm NOT Paying out MY butt just because it's a Porsche! it's a 996 for heavens sake!
You might consider it an acceptable trade off to in some attempt to keep one's insurance costs down to have a damaged Porsche given a sub-par repair, but try living with a badly repaired car, a Porsche for a while, and tell me you prefer that over some possible savings on your insurance.
(BTW, I had my 03 Turbo - which struck a mule deer -- fixed at a Porsche Approved Collision Center and even though it cost my insurance company over $25K my insurance didn't go up. Just weeks prior I had paid $57.7K for the car, so the repair cost represented a good percentage of the car's value based on what I paid for it.)
Often the trusted body shop which does BMW's, Audi's, and M-Bs, and even more exotic cars also does Porsches so you are getting the benefit of using a Porsche specialist.
But if you want to use the local hammer and bondo shop that does Chevy Lumina repairs that's your call.
Not me. I want to use a shop that knows these cars and knows how to fix them properly.
Owners who are faced with getting their car repaired after an accident can always choose to ignore my (actually Porsche's) advice and have the car fixed any old way they want.
As for me, I want my Porsche fixed right and put back to its pre-collision condition.
01-30-2015, 04:48 PM
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Sorry to hear that. I can feel your pain as I recently came out of a store to find my passenger door damaged. The more I look at it, the more I think that someone kicked it in. People suck.
01-30-2015, 05:42 PM
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