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Old 01-26-2015 | 08:31 PM
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Just going to shoot this out there and see what you guys think.

I have a 2001 C2 Aero kit and will be painting it for the spring.
Currently silver, with road chips, swirls, scratches, etc.. its time for a new paint job.

The job will be done by a highly reputable body shop I've been using for years. From my DD Audi to Cayman.

I was thinking about going flat (or matte) white.
Gloss paint reflects 80% sunlight whereas matte paint reflects 20%...and I think its a "different" concept which brings the little boy out of me.

Anyway, bottom line is...what do you guys think of a matte white C2 with an aero kit on my black HRE 18's.

NOT plasti-dip, not vynil wrap or any of that stuff. A full paint job.

Shoot!

...would LOVE to do graphics on it after
Old 01-26-2015 | 08:45 PM
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Have you looked into what it is involved to take care of a "frozen" car?

There is also the question of if your shop is up to the job. From everything I read you want someone that has been trained in the technique (and ideally has already has some experience doing it) or you can end up with something that looks like you took a rattle can to it yourself.

When my Cayenne was getting a full repaint (construction company's) I thought about it and looked into it after seeing it all sanded down. It looked really cool, but i can go years between car washes and that paint needs lots more attention and care. While I trust my shop and have been using them for over 15 years for all my cars, their painter would have been learning on my car.

As far as white, I don't know how that would look. Most people might not even notice. I don't like black as it does just look like primer. The best matte/frozen cars I've seen have been dark blue or dark red.
Old 01-26-2015 | 08:47 PM
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I like Matte white It is a color that you can blend with anything. Gray accents is a marvelous combination IMHO
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Oh and light scratches can't be buffed out. Any mar requires the area to be redone and blending isn't supposed work well which can end up meaning an entire redo if the color has faded too much.
Old 01-26-2015 | 08:53 PM
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Matte white would be sweet.

I used single stage PPG matte black on my H1 and it held up very well. Daily driven, mashed up against the ground, rubbing up against branches, etc.

It was very easy to take care of, just wash with soap and water. Areas that are frequently touched will get glossy from human touch. I used a standard automotive sponge to clean the truck and would vigorously rub the areas that would get oils on them.
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I believe this fad will soon be out of style. It immediately drops resale value.

I hate matte paint & white paint, particularly on 911's, especially 996's as it hides the iconic silouette, which some people say (not I ) is all the 996 has gooing for it.
Old 01-26-2015 | 08:57 PM
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What about a wrap? Much less expensive, and you aren't making an irreversible color change to the car. It'll preserve resale value.
Old 01-26-2015 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Byprodriver
I believe this fad will soon be out of style. It immediately drops resale value.

I hate matte paint & white paint, particularly on 911's, especially 996's as it hides the iconic silouette, which some people say (not I ) is all the 996 has gooing for it.
This "fad" has been around since the 30's.

While the H1 is TOTALLY different than the 996, I was able to sell my truck at a premium because of the paint. But it does remove a large group of people who want a stock car from the "buyers pool."
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Originally Posted by white out
This "fad" has been around since the 30's.

While the H1 is TOTALLY different than the 996, I was able to sell my truck at a premium because of the paint. But it does remove a large group of people who want a stock car from the "buyers pool."
I started seeing it in 2007 here in auto trendsetting SoCA when flat black was the "murdered out" look. Flat black is appropriate for a Hummer but little else.

Assume you are stretching the truth about this trend by including Hot Rods driving around with paint primer on them until the owner can afford to finish the paint process.

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Old 01-26-2015 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by morganabowen
I like Matte white It is a color that you can blend with anything. Gray accents is a marvelous combination IMHO
That's what I was going for! I originally wanted a white C2 but silver was the closest I could get my hands on. But I'm leaning toward it, definitely going to post pics when she's done.

You read my mind, I'm stuck between gray/graphite and black GT3 accents. Might go black because I have black HRE wheels on there now.
Old 01-26-2015 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by white out
Matte white would be sweet.

I used single stage PPG matte black on my H1 and it held up very well. Daily driven, mashed up against the ground, rubbing up against branches, etc.

It was very easy to take care of, just wash with soap and water. Areas that are frequently touched will get glossy from human touch. I used a standard automotive sponge to clean the truck and would vigorously rub the areas that would get oils on them.
Matte black H1? now that's badass!

Yep, from the reading up I've done taking care of a matte finish isn't any harder than properly taking care of a gloss finish. I'm not going for a show car perfect look...just fun to change it up a bit.

But good to know I won't be needing any out of the ordinary materials to clean it, thanks!
Old 01-26-2015 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Byprodriver
I believe this fad will soon be out of style. It immediately drops resale value.

I hate matte paint & white paint, particularly on 911's, especially 996's as it hides the iconic silouette, which some people say (not I ) is all the 996 has gooing for it.
Well that's a double whammy.

I have to disagree about the "fad" going out of style...why else would BMW offer the new M4 and M6 gran coupe in matte finishes? And Mercedes-Benz? And the Audi RS7/R8? If anything, it may be going INto style...I recall Hyundai offering a matte finish for their veloster.

I agree, before "proper" matte finishes were introduced, the flat black people would throw on some cars just wouldn't do it. But hey, we're all entitled to our opinions, aren't we?

My 987.2 Cayman S is speed yellow and my A5 is Aruba blue, having a white car in the garage wouldn't hurt at all.
Old 01-26-2015 | 09:44 PM
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Gloss white looks AWESOME on aero kits. I would get gloss white paint, and a matte white vinyl wrap!

This is going to sound kind of crazy, but the whole gloss/matte style thing went down in the paintball world. Most of you are too old for paintball...

The guns are aluminum bodies, and were always anodized with gloss finishes. Around 2006, the "dust" anno finishes became all you could get. Now, it's back to the gloss. I liked the "dust" finishes because they didn't scratch so easily when you dove around in the dirt and sand.

I do think the matte paint/wrap on a car looks good if done right, and then you won't notice the little imperfections as much.
Old 01-26-2015 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AfroThunder
Well that's a double whammy.

I have to disagree about the "fad" going out of style...why else would BMW offer the new M4 and M6 gran coupe in matte finishes? And Mercedes-Benz? And the Audi RS7/R8? If anything, it may be going INto style...I recall Hyundai offering a matte finish for their veloster.

I 1st heard of MBZ doing this, BMW or Audi have to follow or risk losing sales to the FEW that buy them.

I agree, before "proper" matte finishes were introduced, the flat black people would throw on some cars just wouldn't do it. But hey, we're all entitled to our opinions, aren't we?

Yes we are, you asked for some & I didn't want you to be misled that this was a slam dunk.

My 987.2 Cayman S is speed yellow and my A5 is Aruba blue, having a white car in the garage wouldn't hurt at all.
My Boxster is speed yellow & my wifes Lexus is Blue Sapphire Pearl, the most beautiful oem paint I have seen.

I do like white on high-perf cars IF it has proper black accents.
Old 01-26-2015 | 11:14 PM
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Here is my 87 928S4 in matte graphite with the chrome manhole covers. My avatar shows same but with Turbo Twists. Have received quite a lot of compliments but as has been said, I think it has to fit the car. With that said, if you like it go for it!




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