Lots of smoke and CEL
08-20-2014 | 02:41 AM
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I didn't mean the intake runners, but the rubber plenum. Plenty of crevices in it. I took mine out with a good AOS and there was more oil in it than I would have like to see because of the mold. Yes, to everything else about the frothing due to the design. They almost had to go to 9.4 qts just to get enough unfrothed oil to pump under high rpm!!
08-20-2014 | 03:55 AM
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A puff of smoke on rare occasion is drastically different than "it smokes for five solid minutes when I start it and it runs like crap."
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08-20-2014 | 03:59 AM
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Robert, if you are being sincere, your car has an issue that needs to be addressed before you continue to track it. Eventually you are going to suck enough oil into a cylinder to hydrolock your motor, which will be catastrophic and enormously expensive. Find a mechanic - ask other people at the track who they use to race prep their cars - and spend the money to get this resolved. You are toying around with something that can cost you many thousands of dollars if you push the car too far when it's clearly not working quite right.
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08-20-2014 | 05:26 AM
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A puff of smoke on rare occasion is different than "it smokes for five solid minutes when I start it and it runs like crap."
OP, come on. You have to have some ability to evaluate severity, right? If you wake up with the sniffles, a trip to the hospital is probably unwarranted. If you wake in a puddle of blood because you shat out your spleen in the middle of the night, call a "flatbed..."
OP, come on. You have to have some ability to evaluate severity, right? If you wake up with the sniffles, a trip to the hospital is probably unwarranted. If you wake in a puddle of blood because you shat out your spleen in the middle of the night, call a "flatbed..."
This has to be a troll...nobody can actually pose the question "why does my car smoke and run poorly when other cars don't" sincerely.
"My wife is blue and cold, and starting to smell bad. I notice that other people are not blue, cold, and smell of decay. Any ideas what might be wrong? She had a flu shot last week, so I can't imagine this is serious."
In OP's last thread about the same topic, he wrote:
Robert, if you are being sincere, your car has an issue that needs to be addressed before you continue to track it. Eventually you are going to suck enough oil into a cylinder to hydrolock your motor, which will be catastrophic and enormously expensive. Find a mechanic - ask other people at the track who they use to race prep their cars - and spend the money to get this resolved. You are toying around with something that can cost you many thousands of dollars if you push the car too far when it's clearly not working quite right.
"My wife is blue and cold, and starting to smell bad. I notice that other people are not blue, cold, and smell of decay. Any ideas what might be wrong? She had a flu shot last week, so I can't imagine this is serious."
In OP's last thread about the same topic, he wrote:
Robert, if you are being sincere, your car has an issue that needs to be addressed before you continue to track it. Eventually you are going to suck enough oil into a cylinder to hydrolock your motor, which will be catastrophic and enormously expensive. Find a mechanic - ask other people at the track who they use to race prep their cars - and spend the money to get this resolved. You are toying around with something that can cost you many thousands of dollars if you push the car too far when it's clearly not working quite right.
The shop I am dropping off my car at on Monday is the first shop that has had some kind of explanation about why my car smokes so much. I hope they find the issue.
Robert
08-20-2014 | 05:33 AM
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Smoke coming out of the pipes while you are driving along is something quite different, and should be a concern, IMHO.
08-20-2014 | 06:09 AM
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Ah, I overlooked that you are going to have it serviced. That you've had the aos replaced is good, but they fail at various intervals, so perhaps you have another failure. See what your mechanic thinks about a motorsport AOS. Clearly something different needs to be change...would hate to see a motor die from something preventable. I don't think I'm being overly melodramatic - it does not take much of an incompressible medium - like oil - in a cylinder to cause damage.
I really do encourage you to find a shop that race-preps Porsche. They may have insight or ideas that the OPC and other mechanics might not.
I really do encourage you to find a shop that race-preps Porsche. They may have insight or ideas that the OPC and other mechanics might not.
Interesting! I am dropping my car off at the shop I mentioned in my earlier post on Monday. The thing is however that I talked to several mechanics and also a Porsche Center about this issue. None of these had anything else to say than it must be the AOS. And since I already replaced the AOS they claimed that it is normal that the cars smoke during track activities. Last weekend was also the first time that I got a CEL. So I acctually have called the "doctor", several times acctually! The shop I am dropping off my car at on Monday is the first shop that has had some kind of explanation about why my car smokes so much. I hope they find the issue. Robert
08-26-2014 | 01:50 PM
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I picked up my car at the shop today... They say the engine is in good condition and there is nothing wrong with it.
I have lowered my car and have wider tires than stock, that gives a little higher G-forces. Combined with my driving style maybe that could cause the AOS to not work proporly? I am planning to install a motorsport AOS and see if it helps.
Does anybody know where to find a motorsport AOS at a resonable price? I found some at 800-850 USD, are there any cheaper resellers? I live in Europe, so a European reseller would be ideal. My car is a 996 C2 2002.
Thanks
Robert
I have lowered my car and have wider tires than stock, that gives a little higher G-forces. Combined with my driving style maybe that could cause the AOS to not work proporly? I am planning to install a motorsport AOS and see if it helps.
Does anybody know where to find a motorsport AOS at a resonable price? I found some at 800-850 USD, are there any cheaper resellers? I live in Europe, so a European reseller would be ideal. My car is a 996 C2 2002.
Thanks
Robert