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Old 03-31-2014 | 02:18 AM
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Hi - first post here. thanks in advance for help.

I'm looking for advice on an intake kit for my 2004 4s, and also opinions on fabspeed products.

I looked at Fabspeed's intake and also K&N. The price difference is signifiant (2x for Fabspeed) but the claimed HP gains look to be about the same.

I'm also looking to either go with the muffler bypass for a more aggressive sound, or maybe the Supercup exhaust system or the Maxflow exhaust system.

The other thing I'm considering are catbypass x-pipe.

The goal is a bit more hp and aggressive sound.

Anyone have experience with Fabspeed?

Again, thank you for help.
Old 03-31-2014 | 02:21 AM
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I had the V-flow intake on mine. It sounded awesome. I have no indication that it added any power.

A decent percentage of people who install intakes wind up removing them, some because of the perceived issues with MAF sensors dying.

I would opt for an exhaust component before an intake.
Old 03-31-2014 | 10:54 AM
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I have a 4S with both the FabSpeed exhaust and their older intake. I am happy with both products, but I purchased them dirt cheap from the For Sale section. Your a day late, a FabSpeed exhaust sold yesterday on 6Speed. I can't say I noticed much of a performance increase, maybe a little, but it sounds much better!
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If you are looking for an exhaust setup for a street car, I would recommend staying away from the Supercup. The Supercup is mostly pretty aggressive for street driving. The Maxflo and the Catbypass X-pipe would be a nice in between for a nice sporty sound that isn't too aggressive and annoying. The intake also makes an absolutely amazing sound on acceleration
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Hi Evan,

What about just doing the muffler bypass pipes, to get a more aggressive sound?

For others:

I've also read something about tricking the PSE so that you gain the sports exhaust sound at lower rps? I may be describing this incorrectly - sorry.
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I have the fabspeed x pipe without cat coupled with the factory PSE exhaust and it gets loud. You lose some low end which I felt immediately but gain some on top. If I had to do it again, I would do the x pipe with cat or keep the stock cats.

The consensus on intakes are inflated HP gains but better sound.
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Welcome to rennlist. Search for Fister D if you want better sound from your exhaust at a decent price.
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Intakes will make it sound faster. I have an Evolution Motorsports V-Flow, love the sound but I don't think I gained any performance. I bought it used in the classifieds from another Rennlister for about 1/2 price.

Fabspeed makes top notch stuff, but it's not cheap. The Fister mod makes a great noise, but you don't get any other benefits like lighter weight cans.
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Originally Posted by Evan@Fabspeed
If you are looking for an exhaust setup for a street car, I would recommend staying away from the Supercup. The Supercup is mostly pretty aggressive for street driving. The Maxflo and the Catbypass X-pipe would be a nice in between for a nice sporty sound that isn't too aggressive and annoying. The intake also makes an absolutely amazing sound on acceleration
Oh come on....why would you say that? I have intake/headers/200 cell/ and your supercups and daily mine
it's not for everyone...try to find a few local folks with different setups
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Originally Posted by 9964s
Hi Evan,

What about just doing the muffler bypass pipes, to get a more aggressive sound?

For others:

I've also read something about tricking the PSE so that you gain the sports exhaust sound at lower rps? I may be describing this incorrectly - sorry.
The muffler bypass alone will DEFINITELY get you an aggressive exhaust note! That is a set up that I like to refer to as... ermm.. not girlfriend approved.
Old 04-01-2014 | 11:54 PM
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I ordered the Fabspeed muffler bypass pipes for my 4s. Once I get them installed, I'll upload a video.

thanks for the advice.

p.s. My wife doesn't know I'm doing this, nor does she care. She's never liked the car because she doesn't get it........if you understand me.
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I have all Fabspeed muffler bypass, headers, and intake on my TT. The car sounds amazing but can get extremely annoying during normal driving. Get a set of ear plugs if you plan on any long drives.
Old 04-02-2014 | 03:45 AM
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The supercups aren't that loud. I run those along with cat bypasses and I think the sound is just perfect. I even wish they were a tad louder. If you want a more aggressive sound then don't go with anything other than the supercups; especially if you're still running factory cats. The other mufflers are too quiet.....



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