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Old 10-20-2013, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 996-LO
K&N filter was washed thoroughly and any oily residue was eliminated.
If the K&N does not have oil on it, it most likely will not filter the air properly. Just say'n.
Old 10-20-2013, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 996-LO
I understand your opinions are well founded thank you. But my question is if i had an engine problem would it not show up on a dyno reading?
No it would not. Dyno tells you power output and AFR if it is hooked up, that is about it. This is why everyone is telling you to be careful

Go get a laptop and download some software. (I am sure someone here can suggest great software) It will give you more information than you could imagine.
Then take that info to a pro (There are many here) and let them tell you what it means.

Laptop - $600
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:57 PM
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Id have your ECU programed back to stock with the Piwis. Make sure the correct file is in place on that DME
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ok i c we need data acquisition that would b a good place to start
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Originally Posted by 996-LO
ok i c we need data acquisition that would b a good place to start
Yes. Data logging software can be found fairly cheap. Most come with OBDII adapters too.
They give you everything, Any sensor the car has will be at your fingertips.
Once this data is gathered it will give you a much better picture of what is going on with the engine and allow you to diagnose problems much more accurately.
Old 10-21-2013, 09:32 PM
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Too many things that are expelled by the OBDII port are calculated values. For data logging you must gain raw values.
Old 10-22-2013, 05:46 PM
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Dyno video of comparison runs we were able to do a quick header swap to the X51 headers for the last test of the day

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As a side note. we did install the stock airbox to test the drivability and it runs very well with no in line resistors etc... we still need to dyno the stock airbox to learn what the effect is on power.
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The factory airbox is not a restriction.
Old 10-23-2013, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
The factory airbox is not a restriction.
understood. no harm in dynoing though.
Old 10-23-2013, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 996-LO
understood. no harm in dynoing though.
Please do, I don't think there has been too many independent tests done.
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Isn't a dyno super sensitive to conditions?
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Going stand alone is not a bad idea. I did on my GTS 3 car and it was far easier to tune the car. You can have different files for various fuels if you want. The data from a stand alone is far more meaningful than what you can get from the OBDII. On the newer cars the CAN has more data.
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Are the secondary o2 sensors still in the exhaust, not just hanging open air?

It's my understanding they still need to be sniffing something even if it's triggering a CEL because they don't like the value they are seeing.

Long shot but nobody's asked about it yet.
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Originally Posted by AudiOn19s
Are the secondary o2 sensors still in the exhaust, not just hanging open air?

It's my understanding they still need to be sniffing something even if it's triggering a CEL because they don't like the value they are seeing.

Long shot but nobody's asked about it yet.
that is a great point. we do NOT hav them in the exhaust flow. i feel the same as you they should be detecting exhaust. As of today we are still preparing the chassis for a track day this Saturday so we dont hav much time to hit exhaust shops or dynos.


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