Alignment Specs: Post ROW M030 install
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I believe that after the ROW is installed on my C2 it will need to have the alignment adjusted. Two questions related to this:
1) Is the alignment spec differrent for the ROW versus the standard for a 2002 C2?
2) Can anyone post what the ROW spec should be?
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Gary
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1) Is the alignment spec differrent for the ROW versus the standard for a 2002 C2?
2) Can anyone post what the ROW spec should be?
Thanks in advance,
Gary
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18" Turbo Look Wheels
Pirelli PZero N4
PSE (no switch)
Twin Exhaust Tips
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The only significant difference between USA and ROW M030 alignment specs is the front camber.
USA front camber: 0° ± 15'
ROW M030 front camber: - 15' ± 15'
Not much of a difference, if you ask me.
USA front camber: 0° ± 15'
ROW M030 front camber: - 15' ± 15'
Not much of a difference, if you ask me.
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Viken,
Thanks for the reply. Just to make sure I understand, when you say "USA" confirm your talking about the standard M030 or are you talking about the standard (read non M030) suspension?
Thanks,
Gary
Thanks for the reply. Just to make sure I understand, when you say "USA" confirm your talking about the standard M030 or are you talking about the standard (read non M030) suspension?
Thanks,
Gary
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Originally posted by 02 Blue C2
Thanks for the reply. Just to make sure I understand, when you say "USA" confirm your talking about the standard M030 or are you talking about the standard (read non M030) suspension?
Thanks for the reply. Just to make sure I understand, when you say "USA" confirm your talking about the standard M030 or are you talking about the standard (read non M030) suspension?
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Factory alignment settings are just a baseline, they're not set in stone. Before my RoW M030 install, rear camber was 2.5 neg and fronts were 0. It's set this way by the factory to suit the lowest common denominator among Porsche drivers i.e. the ham-fisted idiot who will likely over-drive the car and get into trouble. My settings are now, rear: 1.5 degrees neg, front 1 degree neg. The balance now is good, it's a good compromise between street (low tire wear) and track needs (neutral handling).
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Originally posted by fahren affair
Factory alignment settings are just a baseline, they're not set in stone. Before my RoW M030 install, rear camber was 2.5 neg and fronts were 0. It's set this way by the factory to suit the lowest common denominator among Porsche drivers i.e. the ham-fisted idiot who will likely over-drive the car and get into trouble. My settings are now, rear: 1.5 degrees neg, front 1 degree neg. The balance now is good, it's a good compromise between street (low tire wear) and track needs (neutral handling).
Factory alignment settings are just a baseline, they're not set in stone. Before my RoW M030 install, rear camber was 2.5 neg and fronts were 0. It's set this way by the factory to suit the lowest common denominator among Porsche drivers i.e. the ham-fisted idiot who will likely over-drive the car and get into trouble. My settings are now, rear: 1.5 degrees neg, front 1 degree neg. The balance now is good, it's a good compromise between street (low tire wear) and track needs (neutral handling).
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My tire (both track and street) wear seems to confirm fahren affair claim that the factory might have 0 camber in front and neg 2 to 2.5 at rear.
Track tires:
Wear even at rear
Wear outer half at front
Street tires:
Wear inner half at rear
wear even at front
Track tires:
Wear even at rear
Wear outer half at front
Street tires:
Wear inner half at rear
wear even at front
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Good feedback guy's.
Loren,
Again you come through with the exact information needed, perfect!!!!
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to understand the basics. Of course it is even more interesting to be able to hear the real world experience on the effects of different settings.
Thanks,
Gary
Loren,
Again you come through with the exact information needed, perfect!!!!
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to understand the basics. Of course it is even more interesting to be able to hear the real world experience on the effects of different settings.
Thanks,
Gary
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Originally posted by 02 Blue C2
If you have access to the factory specs could you post them for all four corners for me? Do the specs only call out camber or do they speak about caster, toe-in and toe- out as well?
If you have access to the factory specs could you post them for all four corners for me? Do the specs only call out camber or do they speak about caster, toe-in and toe- out as well?
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After all this talk I'm going for the ROW 30 on my C2 Cab. A bit off topic, but I am interested in what it will cost to have the ROW 30 install (less parts) and aligned by a dealer.
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Originally posted by Viken
That is not true. The factory wants to adhere to their specs per workshop manuals. If yours were off, and if they were set like that by the factory, it was a sure mistake. The 2.5 degree negative camber would chew-up the inner tread in a heartbeat if car is mostly driven on highways.
That is not true. The factory wants to adhere to their specs per workshop manuals. If yours were off, and if they were set like that by the factory, it was a sure mistake. The 2.5 degree negative camber would chew-up the inner tread in a heartbeat if car is mostly driven on highways.
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Originally posted by fahren affair
I still contend that factory settings make the car 'safe' not fast. It's meant to 'dumb-down' the car for the widest audience of owners/drivers most of which will never track their cars or want to extract to most from it.
I still contend that factory settings make the car 'safe' not fast. It's meant to 'dumb-down' the car for the widest audience of owners/drivers most of which will never track their cars or want to extract to most from it.