Harmonic vibration at 3,000rpm -- BS?
#1
Three Wheelin'
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Harmonic vibration at 3,000rpm -- BS?
Was recently perusing some of the articles at pedrosgarage.com
In one article he notes:
I've heard of a lot...but never this. Anyone else hear of this or is this just more fantasy piled on the engine?
In one article he notes:
M96/M97 engines all develop a 3,000 RPM harmonic vibration intrinsic to the design of the engine.
We recommend that you do not sustain a 3,000 RPM engine speed for extended periods of time when driving on the highways. It is easy to set the cruise control at 72 MPH which, in high gear is very close to the described 3,000 RPM. Just reduce or increase speed a bit to avoid holding the engine at a steady at 3,000 RPM.
We recommend that you do not sustain a 3,000 RPM engine speed for extended periods of time when driving on the highways. It is easy to set the cruise control at 72 MPH which, in high gear is very close to the described 3,000 RPM. Just reduce or increase speed a bit to avoid holding the engine at a steady at 3,000 RPM.
#3
I keep the RPMs up in that range as to never bog the engine when shifting. The M97 engine had a poor design on the piece on top of the oil pressure spring which would whine at 2k rpm. Never heard anything around 3k in either M96 nor M97.
#6
Burning Brakes
That is right around the RPM where the variocam+ kicks in and out so I can see not going up and down through that short range constantly. That is the only vibration I've ever heard or felt.
#7
Race Director
At an indicated 79 mph in my 99' C2 my tach is at 3k RPM, and that is usually the speed I drive on the highway. According to my wife's GPS, actual speed is only 74 MPH. My Porsche seems happy at that speed.
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#8
Captain Obvious
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#10
Race Director
Going up one might notice a bit of the engine coming 'on cam'. Going down there can be a bit of engine reaction. It is hard to describe and my experience is the behavior depends upon other things like the road surface.
Seems like on smoother roads the reaction is more pronounced which suggests to me it is a factor of engine and drive train harmonics more than anything related to the resonance flap.
VarioCam timing changes and low lift take place at lower 1400 (or thereabouts) rpms and timing only at IIRC 5K rpms.
Anyhow, I've driven my 02 Boxster lots of miles and sometimes 3K rpms in 5th gear is just perfect. While I pay no particular attention I suspect the engine has spent hours over the years operating at 3K rpms.
With no ill effects I can detect.
#11
Three Wheelin'
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Yep. I know the vario-cam plus effects -- particularly under light throttle. But I've never felt nor heard anyone else talk about inherent harmonic issues. Some small airplanes have small RPM ranges noted on the tach that you avoid because of harmonics. So, the concept isn't new....but just seems confused or misguided when applied to the M96/M97 engines.
#13
Burning Brakes
Thanks for that Macster. I had forgotten about the resonance flap! That makes more sense. I'm surprised it has such a pronounced effect, but then, I guess that's why they put it in. I don't remember where I thought I read that VC+ occurred at around 3k, but I swear that's been circulating around for a bit.