Budget IMSB Retrofit for $165 Thread
#31
Alp, like Imre said its an "off the shelf" ceramic hybrid bearing. He quoted @$90 to $100 for it but I think its down to $35. There is nothing special about it. The pelican is an off the shelf Japan made $12 bearing. Same as the old OEM but improved in some ways including the stud.
Just because you use an off the shelf "new" bearing doesn't exempt you from potential premature failures which can come about from manufacturing defects, quality of materials, tolerances, etc. There's simply no historical data in terms of reliability from Pelican's kit since it hasn't been around and used in a huge volume to date. That's a fact.
Now some people such as yourself would be willing to take a chance(odd one at that) while others would rather spend a few hundred more than to gamble with their $15-20k engines.
One of my theories of the Porsche single IMS has always been that due to Porsche using many various IMS manufacturers through the 996 and some 997 run, there's a chance that some of the IMS manufactured from some of the origins could've not been as robust or had some very minute manufacturing defects that would've caused it to go bad. I don't know and this is pure speculation on my part.
By using an unknown source, one could argue that you are doing the same thing that Porsche originally did and pick out a bearing blindly with no real long term testing or mass historical data. Remember there have been members that have reported broken IMS with low mileage cars as well(under 30k).
It really boils down to the individual and whether they are comfortable in taking that chance. All I'm trying to say is not everyone will be and they will not be "wasting" a few hundred dollars more for a proven track record and peace of mind.
#32
Captain Obvious
Super User
Super User
Alp, like Imre said its an "off the shelf" ceramic hybrid bearing. He quoted @$90 to $100 for it but I think its down to $35. There is nothing special about it. The pelican is an off the shelf Japan made $12 bearing. Same as the old OEM but improved in some ways including the stud.
#34
Hope this is an appropriate place to post this:
So, what are the odds of getting one with a bad bearing? 100% 50/50? I am new as well but don't roll your eyes. This is a great forum . I have always worked on my cars because I had to buy beaters. Never worked on a porsche. I'm not scared of basic stuff and some more technical repairs....but the IMS scares the crap out of me. I am looking at a 1999 911 Carrera 4. 24 service records and 1 owner. Previous owner replaced water pump, fuel pump, rear seals, window regulators, crank shaft position sensor in Nov of 2012. All done by the dealer that I talked to my self yesterday. But have not replaced the IMS. Car has 103000 miles.
So, what are the odds of getting one with a bad bearing? 100% 50/50? I am new as well but don't roll your eyes. This is a great forum . I have always worked on my cars because I had to buy beaters. Never worked on a porsche. I'm not scared of basic stuff and some more technical repairs....but the IMS scares the crap out of me. I am looking at a 1999 911 Carrera 4. 24 service records and 1 owner. Previous owner replaced water pump, fuel pump, rear seals, window regulators, crank shaft position sensor in Nov of 2012. All done by the dealer that I talked to my self yesterday. But have not replaced the IMS. Car has 103000 miles.
#36
Pro
#38
Sell your car, quit adding to the depreciation of these cars with your paranoid threads.
#41
Race Director
I think this deserves a public service announcement: The engine that was retrofitted using the $35 ceramic hybrid bearing that OP mentions suffered what appears to be an IMSB-related failure 7,000 miles after retrofit. Caveat emptor.
*Edit for clarification* The bearing provided with the Pelican IMSB upgrade kit was NOT used by OP and is not the bearing mentioned in the above sentences.
*Edit for clarification* The bearing provided with the Pelican IMSB upgrade kit was NOT used by OP and is not the bearing mentioned in the above sentences.
Last edited by 5CHN3LL; 04-14-2016 at 06:24 PM.
#43
#44
I'm confused apparently.