Shift Linkage Question
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Shift Linkage Question
I pulled my center console off (2002 996) to paint it and saw that it came with a B&M short shifter installed. It works very well right now.
I noticed it has the stock linkage attached to it though. My thought was while I have the console off, I should at a minimum, replace the current linkage with a new stock linkage. This seems to be the easiest course of action to preserve the cable positioning and not screw up how nice it shifts.
BUT, I've combed through the forum posts for hours seeing recommendations for the after market linkages because the stock linkage is "sloppy" or prone to break.
Specifically, I was looking at either the EVO Billet Link or the Agency Power Link.
A few questions that I couldn't seem to piece together from past posts:
1) Since the short shifter is already installed and there isn't a locking tool for it, am I safer just going with a replacement stock linkage to keep the shift cables working properly?
2) If I were to upgrade, what are your opinions of the EVO linkage versus the Agency Power linkage (I know there are others, but I have enough analysis paralysis with these two)?
From what I've read, the EVO seems to be hit or miss on the set screws being able to hold the cable in place. I couldn't find anything similar to the agency power. The AP link looks simpler as it is one piece from what I can see.
3) Will the upgrade linkages make it much more difficult for me to maintain the correct shift cable setting since I don't have the locking tool?
I'm not sure why I would need the locking tool. If I mark the cable where it enters the stock linkage.
I could then measure the stock linkage length against the upgrade link length and adjust the marking for any differences.
I am assuming everything would be in the right place once I connect the upgrade. I can't find anything to confirm of disprove my theory though. Any thoughts?
Any thoughts, comments, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
I noticed it has the stock linkage attached to it though. My thought was while I have the console off, I should at a minimum, replace the current linkage with a new stock linkage. This seems to be the easiest course of action to preserve the cable positioning and not screw up how nice it shifts.
BUT, I've combed through the forum posts for hours seeing recommendations for the after market linkages because the stock linkage is "sloppy" or prone to break.
Specifically, I was looking at either the EVO Billet Link or the Agency Power Link.
A few questions that I couldn't seem to piece together from past posts:
1) Since the short shifter is already installed and there isn't a locking tool for it, am I safer just going with a replacement stock linkage to keep the shift cables working properly?
2) If I were to upgrade, what are your opinions of the EVO linkage versus the Agency Power linkage (I know there are others, but I have enough analysis paralysis with these two)?
From what I've read, the EVO seems to be hit or miss on the set screws being able to hold the cable in place. I couldn't find anything similar to the agency power. The AP link looks simpler as it is one piece from what I can see.
3) Will the upgrade linkages make it much more difficult for me to maintain the correct shift cable setting since I don't have the locking tool?
I'm not sure why I would need the locking tool. If I mark the cable where it enters the stock linkage.
I could then measure the stock linkage length against the upgrade link length and adjust the marking for any differences.
I am assuming everything would be in the right place once I connect the upgrade. I can't find anything to confirm of disprove my theory though. Any thoughts?
Any thoughts, comments, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
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[QUOTE=miketporsche;10275623]I pulled my center console off (2002 996) to paint it and saw that it came with a B&M short shifter installed. It works very well right now."
Find something that does not work and spend $$ on that??
Find something that does not work and spend $$ on that??
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Right. It isn't broke. One combs through these forums long enough and see so many posts of the linkage breaking, it starts to get in your head..
The thought that I had is replace the linkage as a preventative maintenance item.
Thanks for the replies.
The thought that I had is replace the linkage as a preventative maintenance item.
Thanks for the replies.
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I pulled my center console off (2002 996) to paint it and saw that it came with a B&M short shifter installed. It works very well right now.
I noticed it has the stock linkage attached to it though. My thought was while I have the console off, I should at a minimum, replace the current linkage with a new stock linkage. This seems to be the easiest course of action to preserve the cable positioning and not screw up how nice it shifts.
BUT, I've combed through the forum posts for hours seeing recommendations for the after market linkages because the stock linkage is "sloppy" or prone to break.
Specifically, I was looking at either the EVO Billet Link or the Agency Power Link.
A few questions that I couldn't seem to piece together from past posts:
1) Since the short shifter is already installed and there isn't a locking tool for it, am I safer just going with a replacement stock linkage to keep the shift cables working properly?
2) If I were to upgrade, what are your opinions of the EVO linkage versus the Agency Power linkage (I know there are others, but I have enough analysis paralysis with these two)?
From what I've read, the EVO seems to be hit or miss on the set screws being able to hold the cable in place. I couldn't find anything similar to the agency power. The AP link looks simpler as it is one piece from what I can see.
3) Will the upgrade linkages make it much more difficult for me to maintain the correct shift cable setting since I don't have the locking tool?
I'm not sure why I would need the locking tool. If I mark the cable where it enters the stock linkage.
I could then measure the stock linkage length against the upgrade link length and adjust the marking for any differences.
I am assuming everything would be in the right place once I connect the upgrade. I can't find anything to confirm of disprove my theory though. Any thoughts?
Any thoughts, comments, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
I noticed it has the stock linkage attached to it though. My thought was while I have the console off, I should at a minimum, replace the current linkage with a new stock linkage. This seems to be the easiest course of action to preserve the cable positioning and not screw up how nice it shifts.
BUT, I've combed through the forum posts for hours seeing recommendations for the after market linkages because the stock linkage is "sloppy" or prone to break.
Specifically, I was looking at either the EVO Billet Link or the Agency Power Link.
A few questions that I couldn't seem to piece together from past posts:
1) Since the short shifter is already installed and there isn't a locking tool for it, am I safer just going with a replacement stock linkage to keep the shift cables working properly?
2) If I were to upgrade, what are your opinions of the EVO linkage versus the Agency Power linkage (I know there are others, but I have enough analysis paralysis with these two)?
From what I've read, the EVO seems to be hit or miss on the set screws being able to hold the cable in place. I couldn't find anything similar to the agency power. The AP link looks simpler as it is one piece from what I can see.
3) Will the upgrade linkages make it much more difficult for me to maintain the correct shift cable setting since I don't have the locking tool?
I'm not sure why I would need the locking tool. If I mark the cable where it enters the stock linkage.
I could then measure the stock linkage length against the upgrade link length and adjust the marking for any differences.
I am assuming everything would be in the right place once I connect the upgrade. I can't find anything to confirm of disprove my theory though. Any thoughts?
Any thoughts, comments, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
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I had a b&m on my old 996- awesome upgrade vs stock. Well defined and gated. I would replace the shift ends with oem vs those billet ones. Heard the billet ones can make it notchy. Only issue with the plastic ends is that they can strip but I think that's a positive. Sometimes u force into gear when u shouldn't the plastic ends strip so no damage to engine/drivetrain. With billet very possible to kill motor/tranny. If its not broke now just order some extra's if it gets stripped. With no spare it would kill your trackday. Mike
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Despite some of the recent feedback you've received on this I think that the questions you have raised are all valid and worth considering. There is plenty of information available suggesting that the stock plastic shift cable ends do wear, and may be prone to breakage. Your intent to do some preventative maintenance on this while you're in there makes a lot of sense. Hopefully, someone with some meaningful insight on this will advise you as to what has worked best for them. Absent any other recommendations, it would seem that replacing the plastic shift cable ends with new factory parts while you have it apart might be wise.
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As a follow-up to this. I just ended up replacing the shift linkage with another stock one. I figured since I had the console out, it was worth spending $18 to put a new linkage in.
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Urban Myth. I have 3 Porsche dealers and RAC all of which have NEVER seen a single shift link failure. People started the rumor to sell after market shift links. I made the mistake of paying attention to this myth back when I had my 996 and got an EVO shift link. After installing it, the shifter was stiff and very notchey. Twice the link came loose by the set screws stripping off the cable threads. I threw the POS EVO shift link in the garbage, put the stock one back in and never looked back. Just stick with your stock OEM part and you will never have a problem.
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No personal experience with the shift cables or ends, but this thread seems to have some interesting info...
996 Cup shift cable to the fix
The thread OP/owner was having some shifting smoothness issues under full throttle, upgraded to 996 cup cables.
Obviously more work and cost than just replacing cable ends on the shifter side onlly, but it sounded like it was a great upgrade if you aren't getting super clean shifts.
From that thread, a few images:
Stock Cables:
Cup Cables:
996 Cup shift cable to the fix
The thread OP/owner was having some shifting smoothness issues under full throttle, upgraded to 996 cup cables.
Obviously more work and cost than just replacing cable ends on the shifter side onlly, but it sounded like it was a great upgrade if you aren't getting super clean shifts.
From that thread, a few images:
Stock Cables:
Cup Cables:
Last edited by pfbz; 06-03-2013 at 06:22 PM.