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Old 12-27-2012 | 11:19 PM
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Hi everyone,

I have a three year old that loves to ride in the Porsche. She is in the rear passenger seat in a front facing car seat. Well, we have another one on the way, and I'd love to be able to continue using this car with two kids.

I have seen two car seats before in the back, but can a front facing and a rear facing for the new little one work?

I would need to use the passenger side only as I'm 6'3" and need the leg room on my side. And this is just to drive the kids home from daycare about a mile or two. Can I do the front facing in the rear and then a rear facing in the front with the airbag turned off?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

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Old 12-28-2012 | 01:09 AM
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I have three forward facing car seats in mine. Twin three year olds in the back and five yr old upfront with airbag disable.

Your problem is going to be the length of the infant "pumpkin seat" in the back seat. They will normally require the front seat to be pushed way up front.

I love having three car seats in my car and the looks I get from bystanders as three kids jump out of a 996. But you my friend might be out of luck.
Go down to toys r us tomorrow. They will let you take any at seat to the parking lot to experience the fit.

Good luck and congrats
Old 12-28-2012 | 11:54 AM
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CR - I think California regulations preclude you form putting your child in the front until they're at least 8 years old:

27360. (a) Except as provided in Section 27363 a parent, legal guardian, or driver shall not transport on a highway in a motor vehicle, as defined in paragraph (1) of subdivision (3) of Section 27315, a child or ward who is under eight years of age, without properly securing that child in a rear seat in an appropriate child passenger restraint system meeting applicable federal motor vehicle safety standards.
Old 12-28-2012 | 01:23 PM
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Can the front facing go behind the driver, do you have enough leg room? I usually push the steering wheel all the day way out to dash and bring my seat closer as well to make room for the kiddo behind me.
Old 12-28-2012 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks for the responses. I'll have to try and see if the front facing seat will fit behind me.

I had thought I had read somewhere on the CA DMV website that you could put a front facing seat in the front IF you couldn't secure it safely in the rear (behind me hindering my ability to drive if I don't have enough room) and if you could turn of the air bag. I'll have to look into this more. Sounds like the safest way would be to put my daughter behind me (hopefully) and the rear facing in the passenger rear seat. My wife won't be riding in the passenger seat when the two kids would be in, so no worries about moving the passenger seat all the way up.

Thanks!

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Old 12-28-2012 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Throttle
CR - I think California regulations preclude you form putting your child in the front until they're at least 8 years old:

27360. (a) Except as provided in Section 27363 a parent, legal guardian, or driver shall not transport on a highway in a motor vehicle, as defined in paragraph (1) of subdivision (3) of Section 27315, a child or ward who is under eight years of age, without properly securing that child in a rear seat in an appropriate child passenger restraint system meeting applicable federal motor vehicle safety standards.
Gotta read all the regulation info - you can place a rear facing seat in the front seat on a 996 as it fits better there (section e-4 below as long as you comply with section f), and a booster seat for your bigger kid in the back:

27363. (a) The court may exempt from the requirements
of this ( ) 1 article any class of child by age, weight, or size if it is determined that the use of a child passenger restraint system would be impractical by reason of physical unfitness, medical condition, or size. The court may require satisfactory proof of the child’s physical unfitness, medical condition, or size and that an appropriate special needs child passenger restraint system is not available.
(b) In case of a life-threatening emergency, or when a child is being transported in an authorized emergency vehicle, if there is no child passenger restraint system available, a child may be transported without the use of that system, but the child shall be secured by a seatbelt..
(c) A child weighing more than 40 pounds may be transported in the backseat of a vehicle while wearing only a lap safety belt when the backseat of the vehicle is not equipped with a combination lap and shoulder safety belt.
(d) ( ) 2Notwithstanding Section 27360, a child or ward under eight years of age who is four feet nine inches in height or taller may be properly restrained by a safety belt, as defined in paragraph (2) of subdivision (d) of Section 27315, rather than by a child passenger restraint system.
(e) Notwithstanding Section 27360, a child or ward under eight years of age may ride properly secured in an appropriate child passenger restraint system meeting applicable federal motor vehicle safety standards in the front seat of a motor vehicle under any of the following circumstances:
(1) There is no rear seat.
(2) The rear seats are side-facing jump seats.
(3) The rear seats are rear-facing seats.
(4) The child passenger restraint system cannot be
installed properly in the rear seat.
(5) All rear seats are already occupied by children
seven years of age or under.
(6) Medical reasons necessitate that the child or
ward not ride in the rear seat. The court may require satisfactory proof of the child' s medical condition.
(f) Notwithstanding subdivision (e), a child shall not be transported in a rear-facing child passenger restraint system in the front seat of a motor vehicle that is equipped with an active frontal passenger airbag.


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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/veh_code.pdf
Old 12-28-2012 | 09:35 PM
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garrett376, thanks for the info. It would seem that e-4 and line (f) would permit me to put my three year old in the back, and a rear facing in the passenger seat.

I'm going to have to try fitting the seats in there and see what works best. Like I said, I'm only transporting the kids from our daycare to home, which is about a mile and through a neighborhood.

Thanks for the help!

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P.S. So how do you deactivate the front airbag? Does the dealer have to do it?
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Originally Posted by CR
garrett376, thanks for the info. It would seem that e-4 and line (f) would permit me to put my three year old in the back, and a rear facing in the passenger seat.

I'm going to have to try fitting the seats in there and see what works best. Like I said, I'm only transporting the kids from our daycare to home, which is about a mile and through a neighborhood.

Thanks for the help!

CR

P.S. So how do you deactivate the front airbag? Does the dealer have to do it?

There is a deactivate bar with special receptacle in the middle. Te bar installs between two front seat mounts. Dealer programs the car to deactivate the front passenger bags and side bags ONLY when a Porsche approved car seat with the proper seat belt prong attached to it is clicked on to the deactivation bar. Search for it on pelican and sun coast.

I got lucky and found a Porsche seat on Craigslist. My car had the deactivate bar installed already. The whole thing will cost about $500 I think.

Search eBay and cl for Porsche seats. They are nothing special. Allade by britax with Porsche logo on them. But the thing is you need the special design seat belt clip that is attached to porsche brand seats to actually deactivate.
Old 12-28-2012 | 10:47 PM
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As mentioned above, you need the special deactivation bar from Porsche which has a seatbelt receptacle on it:
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product//99680308302.html

Then you need someone with a PIWIS to activate the bar in the car's software. But you do not need to have a special Porsche seat to activate the buckle switch; instead I use a piece of wire to click the receptacle (just poke it in until it clicks), and then place that wire in the storage bin on the passenger side sill, that way it's there when I need it next time. I just click the receptacle, then place my seat in, and go. The airbag deactivation is "activated" as long as the switch is clicked. If I'm done with it being deactivated, I just press the belt receptacle and it pops, deactivating the airbag deactivation on the next startup of the ignition.




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