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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Default Boxster vs 996 handing.

I have a quick question about 996 handling, In my old boxster I could take a turn a turn off TC and throw the rear at almost any turn with little press on the accelerator. On my 99 996 I have no TC or PSM switch so I am assuming there is no traction control. But it's very hard to throw my rear in the turn unless I go really quick? I am doing something wrong? Not giving it enough gas? It seemed so easy to do in the boxster.
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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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The engine is behind the axles.
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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Get into a corner too fast, lift off the throttle and your 996 will do 180, if not 360. But don't try it.
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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
Get into a corner too fast, lift off the throttle and your 996 will do 180, if not 360. But don't try it.
Challenge accepted.
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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Challenge accepted.
I hope you are well insured.
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Old Sep 15, 2012 | 10:29 PM
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I hope you are well insured.
That's what Walmart parking lots are for, or hopefully I can make it to the track on Thursday (grand bend)
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 01:15 AM
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Google "lift throttle oversteer" and take a look at this video
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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Just did three days of hard driving in the NC/TN mountains with a PCA group. Chased a couple of Boxsters most of the time. Without PSM I would have been in the trees or down a ravine. It was hard keeping up with even an early 2.5 986 when the roads got real tight. They just go through corners so effortlessly, where I was hanging on by electronic fingertips and using all 285mm of tread.

That said, on every straightaway or sweeper I was all over them quickly. I'll keep the 996.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sue Esponte
Google "lift throttle oversteer" and take a look at this video
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that guy should not have been out without an instructor. It was like he was looking for an accident...
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sue Esponte
Google "lift throttle oversteer" and take a look at this video S2K crash.

-Eric
So.....was this an AX, track event, drifting competition, or just some yahoo's??

Marc
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Appears to be an autocross and the guy seemed to enjoy having his *** end hanging out a bit too much...probably didn't realize that while it may have felt cool to him, it was slowing him down. The S2k is notorious for its oversteer. There are videos of them going back end first in straightaways but they're a good example of why lift throttle oversteer isn't a fun "challenge" to induce on a track.

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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sue Esponte
Appears to be an autocross and the guy seemed to enjoy having his *** end hanging out a bit too much...probably didn't realize that while it may have felt cool to him, it was slowing him down. The S2k is notorious for its oversteer. There are videos of them going back end first in straightaways but they're a good example of why lift throttle oversteer isn't a fun "challenge" to induce on a track.

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Can't get on the guy too much - he was at a track. That's where you should go to have fun.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sue Esponte
...a good example of why lift throttle oversteer isn't a fun "challenge" to induce on a track.

-Eric
Did it in an Abarth Zagato in a race once, and that was enough.

VERY overrated as an amusement.
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by healey1968
Can't get on the guy too much - he was at a track. That's where you should go to have fun.
The track is still not the best place for it; at least not a track like that with so many tire piles and fences so close to it. Nice big parking lot autocross with plenty of run-out room would be a much better place.

Local drift club near me frequently rents out the police/military training track at Blackwater (yes, that blackwater) for open track (what they gall "grip driving") and drifting. I really have no desire to drift, but it's cheap as hell for unlimited track use for us "grip drivers"- especially in the afternoon when all the drifters have run out of tires and/or broken their cars and everyone else has already driven until they got sick of driving. Unfortunately, the drifters immediately drag tons of gravel onto the track so it's not the best track experience out there. Oh, my point- I have no desire to drift, but DO desire to master that level of car control. So, I took the opportunity to try my hand at drifting my Boxster S under the tuteledge of an experienced kid who called himself the drift ninja, but with limited success. I can drift go-karts like a mother****er and have no issue controlling oversteer on other cars I've driven, but it was just really hard to control. And destroyed my rear tires in less than 15 minutes- there were pieces of shredded rubber handing off; it literally looked like I took a cheese grater to it. I had a few good drifts going, but my transition back to straight driving was always very abrupt and violent. With more practice, I think I'd get better at it, but I did not find it to be an easy car to drift. Haven't ever tried to drift a 996, so unable to compare directly, sorry.
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