IMS Guardian Install- Now drain plug leaking
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I have just finished up the install of the IMS Guardian, but now the drain plug leaks. Never leaked when I used the OEM one or the Magnetic one I had.
I have torqued to the correct setting, used a different crush washer and have even put less torque on there and it still seeps.
Any thoughts or anyone else have this issue?
I have torqued to the correct setting, used a different crush washer and have even put less torque on there and it still seeps.
Any thoughts or anyone else have this issue?
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We haven't had any complaints of this.. I will say that during our testing I found one instance where the factory sump plate was machined deeper and effected the installed depth of the MCD sensor. This did cause a slight oil leak as it effected seating of the crush gasket.
Email is some pics of the leak and we can either give you some pointers or send you an altered MCD unit.
We only had the problem once.
Email is some pics of the leak and we can either give you some pointers or send you an altered MCD unit.
We only had the problem once.
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BTW the first generation MCD used a non OEM, thicker crush gasket. These units must use this sealing gasket and we include a second spare gasket in the kits. If using any other crush gasket I'd expect a leak.
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Jake must have a giant alarm bell hanging off his computer... get some sleep, brother!
(actually, thanks for being such an available asset, and not just for your customers)
(actually, thanks for being such an available asset, and not just for your customers)
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No problem.. We have to support our products, and I treat my purchasers the same way I'd want to be treated if the roles were swapped.
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Jake, since this uses a different crush washer than stock can you specify which crush washers we should be using?
Also I recently inquired about upgrading my imsg to have the 12V output. Basically from what I understand I need to uninstall the electronics unit and attached wiring, correct? Wish the unit had a wiring harness disconnect near the electronic unit so I wouldn't have to pull all the wiring out. Other than that I think its a great product especially for those with a re-manufactured engine.
Thanks
Also I recently inquired about upgrading my imsg to have the 12V output. Basically from what I understand I need to uninstall the electronics unit and attached wiring, correct? Wish the unit had a wiring harness disconnect near the electronic unit so I wouldn't have to pull all the wiring out. Other than that I think its a great product especially for those with a re-manufactured engine.
Thanks
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Jake, since this uses a different crush washer than stock can you specify which crush washers we should be using?
Generation two units have an altered MCD that uses the OEM factory Porsche sealing ring so nothing special is required with these, however these sealing rings are one time use only.
Also I recently inquired about upgrading my imsg to have the 12V output. Basically from what I understand I need to uninstall the electronics unit and attached wiring, correct?
Wish the unit had a wiring harness disconnect near the electronic unit so I wouldn't have to pull all the wiring out.
We can upgrade existing generation one units to have the external output for 40.00 + shipping, but we need the primary wire harness and the black box. This requires a circuit board modification.
Other than that I think its a great product especially for those with a re-manufactured engine.
That said, the IMS Guardian Jr. is looking good for release in late April for those who have the 2005 and later cars. Its not as seamless to integrate and doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it still warns of imminent engine failure in the same manner. Its even easier to install and cheaper with a tentative retail price of 199.00
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I will try tomorrow to get some pics and see if maybe my torque wrench is off just enough to make it seep.
I just don't want to over tighten and kill the threads in that alum. plate.
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I have the first gen unit. It has the thick washer. The drain plug does seem to go quite far into the recess of the sump plate. I thought maybe that was preventing it from sealing, but it seems that upon further inspection it is just barely clearing the sump plate structure.
I will try tomorrow to get some pics and see if maybe my torque wrench is off just enough to make it seep.
I just don't want to over tighten and kill the threads in that alum. plate.
I will try tomorrow to get some pics and see if maybe my torque wrench is off just enough to make it seep.
I just don't want to over tighten and kill the threads in that alum. plate.
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Installation is complete on IMSG0807, and I have a small oil leak coming from the unit's oil drain plug. 2004 996 40th Anniversary, M96/01 engine. I had no previous oil leak problems. Any ideas? Different crush washer? Machined right?
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Now, my leak has slowed, but I have yet to see that it actually stopped. Over the course of a week I may have a few drops on the ground where as before I had a very small puddle.
Jake, what do you think should be my (our) next moves? Ship us new plugs to try?
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We have had 4 reports of slight leaks, all but one of them was an issue with the tightness of the sensor or te sensor contacting the inner diameter of the sump plate before the seating surface. In that one case we replaced the sensor and the issue was solved.
If you tightened the sensor ad te leak slowed, the issues is not the sensor, it's probably slight miasma honing of the sump plate that's effecting the sealing of the sensor. I can post a small modification that you can make to the sensor to solve the issue or we can replace your sensor with the generation 2 unit, no worries.
FYI two of the leak issues occurred on the anniversary edition cars. The sump plates on these engines are slightly different and we have learned that the issue is compounded with that sump plate. Try tightening the plug slightly and if that doesn't work we will modify a sensor and send to you.
If you tightened the sensor ad te leak slowed, the issues is not the sensor, it's probably slight miasma honing of the sump plate that's effecting the sealing of the sensor. I can post a small modification that you can make to the sensor to solve the issue or we can replace your sensor with the generation 2 unit, no worries.
FYI two of the leak issues occurred on the anniversary edition cars. The sump plates on these engines are slightly different and we have learned that the issue is compounded with that sump plate. Try tightening the plug slightly and if that doesn't work we will modify a sensor and send to you.
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We have had 4 reports of slight leaks, all but one of them was an issue with the tightness of the sensor or te sensor contacting the inner diameter of the sump plate before the seating surface. In that one case we replaced the sensor and the issue was solved.
If you tightened the sensor ad te leak slowed, the issues is not the sensor, it's probably slight miasma honing of the sump plate that's effecting the sealing of the sensor. I can post a small modification that you can make to the sensor to solve the issue or we can replace your sensor with the generation 2 unit, no worries.
FYI two of the leak issues occurred on the anniversary edition cars. The sump plates on these engines are slightly different and we have learned that the issue is compounded with that sump plate. Try tightening the plug slightly and if that doesn't work we will modify a sensor and send to you.
If you tightened the sensor ad te leak slowed, the issues is not the sensor, it's probably slight miasma honing of the sump plate that's effecting the sealing of the sensor. I can post a small modification that you can make to the sensor to solve the issue or we can replace your sensor with the generation 2 unit, no worries.
FYI two of the leak issues occurred on the anniversary edition cars. The sump plates on these engines are slightly different and we have learned that the issue is compounded with that sump plate. Try tightening the plug slightly and if that doesn't work we will modify a sensor and send to you.
Just to be clear do you want me to try and tighten it past the recc. torque specs? If so, how far do you think I should go?