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Old 12-13-2011, 09:28 PM
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Default OK. It's really 10k for the rear tires.

I read in the forum that you get about 10k on the rear tires. I watched my tires and noticed very little wear on the outer tire and more on the inner tire. Tried to push it to 13k. Flat tire today and I got to see the belts on the inner side of the tires when they took them off. I'm converted and saved...10k any day.
Old 12-13-2011, 09:41 PM
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Do a few DEs and you'll find your tires will only last the summer!

I bought new rears in April and am due for a new set after only 3 DEs.
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The Pirelli tires on my 996 were toast at the 9,000 to 10,000 mile mark. Pirelli tires don't last long IMO. The Michelin PS2 that replaced the Pirelli tires on the 996 were still decent at 15,000 miles.

BTW, my 997.2 has 7,200 miles on it and the rear tires (Pirelli came on the car) are near the wear bars. Probably could get another 1,000 miles on them but I ordered 4 Michelin Pilot Super Sports today. Should be in next week.
Old 12-14-2011, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gota911
The Pirelli tires on my 996 were toast at the 9,000 to 10,000 mile mark. Pirelli tires don't last long IMO.
I had this same exchange with LVDELL. I had Pirelli's on my car for 20,000 miles before I changed to Michelin PS2's. It depends on how you drive (and I didn't drive like a grandmother, either). There was wear on the rear inner, but the fronts were still pretty good.
Old 12-14-2011, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by palace1913
I read in the forum that you get about 10k on the rear tires. I watched my tires and noticed very little wear on the outer tire and more on the inner tire. Tried to push it to 13k. Flat tire today and I got to see the belts on the inner side of the tires when they took them off. I'm converted and saved...10k any day.
Inner edge rear tire wear is a sign the alignment's out. I barely got 8K miles out of a brand new pair of Continental tires on my 03 Turbo due to a bad alignment.

After I replaced the rear tires and after the alignment I can easy get 20K miles and this last set of Bridgestones I managed to get close to 24K miles and the tires were not quite to the wear bars but I was heading out on a long road trip and wanted fresh tires.

Now my tire life is based on ensuring the alignment is right and keeping the tires properly inflated and reasonable driving. I hit the curvy roads once in a while but no tracking. Around town I cool my jets cause hard cornering will tend to eat up the tires.

Oh, my experience is none of the various brands of tires approved for use on Porsches have any better or worse wear. For instance I got as many miles from the Pirelli tires on my Boxster as I did with Michelin tires.

I've run Continentals and Bridgestones on my Turbo and both brands deliver equally good tire life.

What I did notice is the Pirelli tires got very noisy as they aged due to heat cycling I guess compared to the Michelin tires.

Be sure the alignment's correct and unless you have a brick on your right foot tire life should easily double to 16K miles and 20K (or more) miles is obtainable without much effort.

Sincerely,

Macster.
Old 12-14-2011, 11:47 AM
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I normally get about 23~24K miles on my Michelin PS2s. I also have the rear camber set to a much more conservative setting. I have about 40K on the fronts.

Alignment is everything.
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Originally Posted by Orient Express
I normally get about 23~24K miles on my Michelin PS2s. I also have the rear camber set to a much more conservative setting. I have about 40K on the fronts.

Alignment is everything.
Bingo!

I think the factory settings for rear camber support rear-engine performance at the expense of tire wear.

(Hey look... Two Orient Red cars next to each other!)
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Originally Posted by palace1913
I got to see the belts on the inner side of the tires when they took them off. I'm converted and saved...10k any day.
What did you observe about the belts?
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new set of ps2 @ 11.3k miles. i swapped them out for snow tires @ 23.2k miles. thats 11.9k miles. rears down to 3/32", fronts still very good. i thought the ps2 might last a bit longer - at least with my experience on my 540i. new rear ps2 going on this spring.
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Originally Posted by billyboy
What did you observe about the belts?
That I should not see them..
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Originally Posted by Macster
Inner edge rear tire wear is a sign the alignment's out. I barely got 8K miles out of a brand new pair of Continental tires on my 03 Turbo due to a bad alignment.

After I replaced the rear tires and after the alignment I can easy get 20K miles and this last set of Bridgestones I managed to get close to 24K miles and the tires were not quite to the wear bars but I was heading out on a long road trip and wanted fresh tires.

Now my tire life is based on ensuring the alignment is right and keeping the tires properly inflated and reasonable driving. I hit the curvy roads once in a while but no tracking. Around town I cool my jets cause hard cornering will tend to eat up the tires.

Oh, my experience is none of the various brands of tires approved for use on Porsches have any better or worse wear. For instance I got as many miles from the Pirelli tires on my Boxster as I did with Michelin tires.

I've run Continentals and Bridgestones on my Turbo and both brands deliver equally good tire life.

What I did notice is the Pirelli tires got very noisy as they aged due to heat cycling I guess compared to the Michelin tires.

Be sure the alignment's correct and unless you have a brick on your right foot tire life should easily double to 16K miles and 20K (or more) miles is obtainable without much effort.

Sincerely,

Macster.
I'll have the Indy check the alignment on Friday.
Old 12-15-2011, 03:08 AM
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i have Toyos in the rear, 315's and every 10k FINITO, another $400 for each!
Old 12-15-2011, 09:34 PM
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My P zeros are almost shot ... anyone try yokohama s.drive 265/35/18 ?
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Originally Posted by palace1913
I'll have the Indy check the alignment on Friday.
Indy put it on the rack and found no issues with the alignment.
Old 12-16-2011, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by palace1913
Indy put it on the rack and found no issues with the alignment.
So what did your Indy tell you about your tire wear? Surely he gave you his opinion about the wear rate for your car. Normal? Driving style? Cabriolet?
What was his recommendation to you?


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