What's your oil pressure at key ON engine OFF?
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What's your oil pressure at key ON engine OFF?
Mine sits at 0.5bar but I thought it used to be at 0. I think the sensor is failing. A tech from the dealer said it's residual pressure in the system and the sensor is correct. I think it's BS. What do you think?
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Having the sensor possibly "failing high" is not a good thing...the real pressure could drop to nil but the sensor might not give a warning if it is reading high. Result--blown engine. IMHO, the cost of replacing the sensor is well worth ensuring one has accurate oil pressure readings. That's not a risk I'd personally take.
First thing I'd do is clean the two contacts on the sensor. If the residual pressure reading persists, I'd spend the $50 for the part and an hour of my DIY time to replace the sensor and eliminate the risk of a "going bad" sensor. This is less expensive than my tech putting in a parallel shop oil pressure gauge to verify the reading of the normal gage.
Based on my experience, residual oil pressure after shutting the engine off for any reasonable length of time is zero...so I'd vote "bad sensor" in your case. But even if my guess turns out wrong I'd still replace the sensor to be 100% certain and have peace of mind.
Good luck.
First thing I'd do is clean the two contacts on the sensor. If the residual pressure reading persists, I'd spend the $50 for the part and an hour of my DIY time to replace the sensor and eliminate the risk of a "going bad" sensor. This is less expensive than my tech putting in a parallel shop oil pressure gauge to verify the reading of the normal gage.
Based on my experience, residual oil pressure after shutting the engine off for any reasonable length of time is zero...so I'd vote "bad sensor" in your case. But even if my guess turns out wrong I'd still replace the sensor to be 100% certain and have peace of mind.
Good luck.
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Having the sensor possibly "failing high" is not a good thing...the real pressure could drop to nil but the sensor might not give a warning if it is reading high. Result--blown engine. IMHO, the cost of replacing the sensor is well worth ensuring one has accurate oil pressure readings. That's not a risk I'd personally take.
First thing I'd do is clean the two contacts on the sensor. If the residual pressure reading persists, I'd spend the $50 for the part and an hour of my DIY time to replace the sensor and eliminate the risk of a "going bad" sensor. This is less expensive than my tech putting in a parallel shop oil pressure gauge to verify the reading of the normal gage.
Based on my experience, residual oil pressure after shutting the engine off for any reasonable length of time is zero...so I'd vote "bad sensor" in your case. But even if my guess turns out wrong I'd still replace the sensor to be 100% certain and have peace of mind.
Good luck.
First thing I'd do is clean the two contacts on the sensor. If the residual pressure reading persists, I'd spend the $50 for the part and an hour of my DIY time to replace the sensor and eliminate the risk of a "going bad" sensor. This is less expensive than my tech putting in a parallel shop oil pressure gauge to verify the reading of the normal gage.
Based on my experience, residual oil pressure after shutting the engine off for any reasonable length of time is zero...so I'd vote "bad sensor" in your case. But even if my guess turns out wrong I'd still replace the sensor to be 100% certain and have peace of mind.
Good luck.
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The sensor is likely failing however I believe the low oil pressure "switch" is separate internally. If your oil light comes on w/the ignition on but engine not running, the warning system is active. This means that in the event of oil pressure loss, the MK1 cars it should at least turn on the warning light and on the MK2 cars it should sound the beep, turn the instrument cluster red w/the symbol/message "low oil pressure" as well as illuminate the low oil pressure warning light.
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Ok. Got the sensor replaced today and the pressure gauge reads exactly "0" when key ON engine OFF. It's repeatable over and over again even when I turn off and on the engine.
So the conclusion is our oil pressure gauge should read "0". If not, it is failing or marginal. Mine read "0.5" before replacement and I got the oil pressure indicator failure warning with mometary 0 oil pressure at highway speed. Also, the residual pressure theory is BS.
So the conclusion is our oil pressure gauge should read "0". If not, it is failing or marginal. Mine read "0.5" before replacement and I got the oil pressure indicator failure warning with mometary 0 oil pressure at highway speed. Also, the residual pressure theory is BS.
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Ok. Got the sensor replaced today and the pressure gauge reads exactly "0" when key ON engine OFF. It's repeatable over and over again even when I turn off and on the engine.
So the conclusion is our oil pressure gauge should read "0". If not, it is failing or marginal. Mine read "0.5" before replacement and I got the oil pressure indicator failure warning with mometary 0 oil pressure at highway speed. Also, the residual pressure theory is BS.
So the conclusion is our oil pressure gauge should read "0". If not, it is failing or marginal. Mine read "0.5" before replacement and I got the oil pressure indicator failure warning with mometary 0 oil pressure at highway speed. Also, the residual pressure theory is BS.
#11
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Interesting. After my engine swap (the new is known to be good) - the oil pressure seemed to be reading .5bar lower than it should. I am getting .5bar at key on / engine off. I'm having it static tested next week - but have heard it could be either the sensor or the instrument cluster.
Since I am experiencing speedo and fuel level issues as well - I'm not ruling anything out.
Since I am experiencing speedo and fuel level issues as well - I'm not ruling anything out.
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After my most recent service, my oil pressure readings have been weird and giving faults, but only if it's been sitting for a while and I drive 'briskly' without letting the car warm up first. It's happened twice, so not repeatable or often, but it happened this morning and the indicator would go up to 5 and stick, then down to 0 and stick, few times of doing that, then after about 7 mins settled in the middle where it usually is... .weird.
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Ok. Got the sensor replaced today and the pressure gauge reads exactly "0" when key ON engine OFF. It's repeatable over and over again even when I turn off and on the engine.
So the conclusion is our oil pressure gauge should read "0". If not, it is failing or marginal. Mine read "0.5" before replacement and I got the oil pressure indicator failure warning with mometary 0 oil pressure at highway speed. Also, the residual pressure theory is BS.
So the conclusion is our oil pressure gauge should read "0". If not, it is failing or marginal. Mine read "0.5" before replacement and I got the oil pressure indicator failure warning with mometary 0 oil pressure at highway speed. Also, the residual pressure theory is BS.
Good to know - Thanks.
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The oil pressure sensor has a diaphragm and spring, also with along with a sliding resister contact and a warning contact. Sometimes the sliding resister can loose contact, or the diaphragm sticks and causes false readings. It also has a PTFE vent in between the electrical contacts to vent the diaphragm area that can get stopped up with dirt and cause false readings. Overall not the most reliable sensor I have ever seen.
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