2000 996 with cracked block - repair or junk?
12-01-2010 | 12:59 AM
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For the curious, this is the green color I'm talking about:
http://gtcarlot.com/car/9098652. [not my car, and the color looks much better when sunlight is involved ]
If anyone has a low mileage 997 in that color for sale, let me know.
Bob
http://gtcarlot.com/car/9098652. [not my car, and the color looks much better when sunlight is involved ]
If anyone has a low mileage 997 in that color for sale, let me know.
Bob
12-01-2010 | 01:04 AM
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My 2000 996 engine died this morning. Driving my daughter to school, check engine light came on, followed 2 miles later by lots of white smoke from the passenger side exhaust and sudden roughness in the engine.
Had it towed to shop,and they confirmed CEL codes showed multiple cylinder misfires and smoke was coolant getting into the fuel. I.e. cracked block or cylinder head.
I'm inclined to believe their recommendation, especially since it makes them the least $$$ by far. They suggest replacing the car. It's a 2000 996 C2 with 107,500 miles, the original transmission, and few options,so it's book value pre-disaster was probably in the mid-teens at best, although the engine was replaced under warranty (RMS) at 30,000 miles. It will also be difficult to replace as it's a metallic rain forest green (I think that's what Porsche called it), which was rare and only made for a few years.
Other options are a rebuild, buy a used engine, or buy a new engine from Porsche. Any of those would quickly exceed the value of the car.
It's my baby, and I've had it since new, so I wish there was a way to rescue it, but it doesn't seem like there is any way that makes sense. Any suggestions on options I'm missing? Also, anyone want to hazard a guess as to the chances of PCNA kicking in anything meaningful towards the repair or a discount on a new purchase?
Thanks,
Bob (sad about his Porsche)
Had it towed to shop,and they confirmed CEL codes showed multiple cylinder misfires and smoke was coolant getting into the fuel. I.e. cracked block or cylinder head.
I'm inclined to believe their recommendation, especially since it makes them the least $$$ by far. They suggest replacing the car. It's a 2000 996 C2 with 107,500 miles, the original transmission, and few options,so it's book value pre-disaster was probably in the mid-teens at best, although the engine was replaced under warranty (RMS) at 30,000 miles. It will also be difficult to replace as it's a metallic rain forest green (I think that's what Porsche called it), which was rare and only made for a few years.
Other options are a rebuild, buy a used engine, or buy a new engine from Porsche. Any of those would quickly exceed the value of the car.
It's my baby, and I've had it since new, so I wish there was a way to rescue it, but it doesn't seem like there is any way that makes sense. Any suggestions on options I'm missing? Also, anyone want to hazard a guess as to the chances of PCNA kicking in anything meaningful towards the repair or a discount on a new purchase?
Thanks,
Bob (sad about his Porsche)
I too have a 2000 C2 Cab with the engine replaced at 47K miles in 2007 and now the car has 62K mile. First engine had porosity in the block.
Would you mind to share with us what year your engine was replaced at 30K miles?
I am a bit worry now......
12-01-2010 | 01:19 AM
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Sorry to hear that Bob.
I too have a 2000 C2 Cab with the engine replaced at 47K miles in 2007 and now the car has 62K mile. First engine had porosity in the block.
Would you mind to share with us what year your engine was replaced at 30K miles?
I am a bit worry now......
I too have a 2000 C2 Cab with the engine replaced at 47K miles in 2007 and now the car has 62K mile. First engine had porosity in the block.
Would you mind to share with us what year your engine was replaced at 30K miles?
I am a bit worry now......
Bob
12-01-2010 | 01:32 AM
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Bob your car might be worth more as a trade in at Rector or another Porsche dealership. I bought my 99' 996 with a blown motor from BH Porsche. They took it in trade from a customer who didn't want to spend the money replacing the motor. They offered him MORE than the car was worth to entice him to buy another Porsche from them which he apparenly did. They had 2 of them with blown motors so they obviously have made that type of deal previously. We (my wrench and I) bought them both just before they went to auction.....
12-01-2010 | 01:35 AM
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12-01-2010 | 01:57 AM
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12-01-2010 | 02:11 AM
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And I was at the game a few years back when Cal fans stormed the field to celebrate, were cleared off, and then lost the game on the final play. That was sweet.
But my uncle lettered at Cal, and another acquaintance was Oski one year, so I have learned to tolerate folks from across the Bay.
And I will check out the trade in option. Thanks for the idea.
Bob
12-01-2010 | 09:08 AM
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Sorry about your plight Bob. You bought your Porsche new at the dealer, have you had the dealer do all of your work on the 911? I'd say that if you have a history with your Porsche and a good relationship, it may be worthwhile to explore the alternatives you mentioned with PCNA and your dealer.
12-01-2010 | 09:55 AM
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Plenty of options here. No need to freak out!
There is an used engine post #7 for $2500. An extra $2K for the install and perhaps $500 for transport, you be back on the road for $5K.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...es-for-9k.html
There is an used engine post #7 for $2500. An extra $2K for the install and perhaps $500 for transport, you be back on the road for $5K.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...es-for-9k.html
12-01-2010 | 10:08 AM
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It could be a cracked head, that can be repared for a lot less than engine replacement,
Check post #13
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...o-coolant.html
Check post #13
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...o-coolant.html