So I replaced my Air/Oil separator
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i wanted to do a preventative replacement for peace of mind. hydro-lock fears....
unfortunatly, the motorsports AOS does not work on my X51 engine because of the the larger X51 intake manifold.
i will sell my new motorsports AOS for $600 + shipping.
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hello everybody,
i just did this aos replacement. i thought everything went fine, but when we went to restart car we had a backfire and the car won't stay running.
any ideas?
i am thinking i might have a leak somewhere. maybe from the cross tube behind the throttle body, or the throttle body itself. does these sounds like the correct symptoms?
thanks!
i just did this aos replacement. i thought everything went fine, but when we went to restart car we had a backfire and the car won't stay running.
any ideas?
i am thinking i might have a leak somewhere. maybe from the cross tube behind the throttle body, or the throttle body itself. does these sounds like the correct symptoms?
thanks!
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hello everybody,
i just did this aos replacement. i thought everything went fine, but when we went to restart car we had a backfire and the car won't stay running.
any ideas?
i am thinking i might have a leak somewhere. maybe from the cross tube behind the throttle body, or the throttle body itself. does these sounds like the correct symptoms?
thanks!
i just did this aos replacement. i thought everything went fine, but when we went to restart car we had a backfire and the car won't stay running.
any ideas?
i am thinking i might have a leak somewhere. maybe from the cross tube behind the throttle body, or the throttle body itself. does these sounds like the correct symptoms?
thanks!
also, i had difficulty removing the alternator. now that i have done it, to make it easier, i would do this: the alternator is held on by two bolts, the bolt closer to the passenger side screws into a bushing. loosen the bolt maybe a mm or two and hammer it inward to move that bushing towards the front of the car. if you move it a mm or two, it will make removal 100x easier.
hope this helps.
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Please, STILL can't find the answer to the question : On the 3.6L MKII engine, is there a bellows pipe that needs to be replaced? As stated, when you order the part number 996-107-175-50 as shown in the PET for part, "10", the bellows, you get a 90 degree bent oil hose pipe, instead. Pelican shows the part number for the bellows as 996-107-237-52, but lists it as '99 through '01 only. Yet the AOS is the same. Anyone that has done this, can you shed some light, please?!
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Please, STILL can't find the answer to the question : On the 3.6L MKII engine, is there a bellows pipe that needs to be replaced? As stated, when you order the part number 996-107-175-50 as shown in the PET for part, "10", the bellows, you get a 90 degree bent oil hose pipe, instead. Pelican shows the part number for the bellows as 996-107-237-52, but lists it as '99 through '01 only. Yet the AOS is the same. Anyone that has done this, can you shed some light, please?!
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Bigchunk....I know its been a while but about to do this job myself. Its a 2005 997 Carrera (3.6), how long did the job take? I like working on my car and do most of the jobs myself, my regular garage quoted me $450 labor but if this is straightforward once the manifold if off im keen to do it myself. Any tips? Thanks!
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Very old thread. If your regular garage quoted you $450 to replace the AOS, take it. That is a bargain. 99C2...3 days...wrap your left arm in an Ace bandage because you will be using only your left hand, wounds and pride took 2 weeks to heal. Advil and beer (many) recommended..........
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jcc0016 (12-26-2020)
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Now that the engine has been lowered and the throttle body is off and some basic connections are disconnected, it's time to dig in deeper.
The first task should be to loosen all eight of the big hose clamps connecting the plenums to the intake manifolds. I used a 7mm socket with extension to make quick work of that job. Now leave it. Don't try to remove the plenums yet, you will likely just waste a lot of time trying.
Next, loosen and remove ALL of the intake manifold bolts. Trust me on this (I learned through trial and error throughout this job) - if you remove the manifold bolts first, you'll then be able to move the manifold outboard a bit to enable easy removal of the the two plenums.
The hardest job yet is finally upon you, your poor arms, and your patience. Trying to get the 10mm intake manifold bolts off is not easy - especially the last one in the very front (my favorite expression always began with an F. My neighbors probably think I'm crazy now - muttering to myself while hugging the engine of my beloved 996
). The bolts aren't tight; they're just hard to get to. Actually, the rear five aren't too bad. It's the previously mentioned last one. Number six. Here's what I finally figured out: Do NOT try to come at it at any angle with a swivel socket. It won't happen. If you use a 1/4" drive socket extension about the height of the manifold itself - maybe 7 or 8 inches, and leave the wrench off for the time being, you can come around the left side with your left arm and then, as you feel your way past the edge of the manifold, come straight down - STRAIGHT DOWN - and feel for the bolt head down there. If you've gotten your socket near to where it needs to be, it should slip right onto the bolt head with only a little wiggling to find it. I HIGHLY recommend that you go in bare handed at first - with no wrench. Try to "learn" the layout of the manifold down there with your fingers, Find the bolt head. Feel where it is in relation to other landmarks. Get familiar with it. Then, when you're comfortable finding it every time with your left hand (basically you index finger only), try it with the socket and extension. You should be able to find the bolt head if you come absolutely straight down on it. It's a tight fit in there, but don't give up. Once you're on it, bring the wrench in, carefully attach it to the extension and slowly loosen the bolt.
Make sure you have a magnetic pickup stick. You WILL drop sockets and bolts onto the case.
Now you can see the AOS at the front left. As my Porsche mechanic friend recommended to me, don't pull any water hoses off of it just yet. Pull off the big hose on the right (with that funny connector again) and that's all.
Now, head down underneath the car with a light and get into position to see the AOS from below. You'll see the bellows and it's clamps. My Porsche mechanic friend told me to just take some pliers, squeeze the clamp, and pull it (the clamp) up and off the metal tube that the bellows attaches to. It's a bit ungainly and will deform the hell out of the rubber bellows, but no worries - you have a new one. Now, take your trusty 10mm 1/4" drive socket and about 15 inches of extensions and come in from the side and remove the two bolts that hold the AOS onto the case. Get a screwdriver or something similar and start wedging it outboard. Once it's clear of the case, climb back topside, grab the AOS and pull it up and back toward the rear. Once you have it in front of you, it's a simple matter to pull off the two water hoses, but be aware that you will spill a few ounces of coolant, so have a small container ready for the overflow.
Woohoo!! The AOS is out!![Cheers](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)
The first task should be to loosen all eight of the big hose clamps connecting the plenums to the intake manifolds. I used a 7mm socket with extension to make quick work of that job. Now leave it. Don't try to remove the plenums yet, you will likely just waste a lot of time trying.
Next, loosen and remove ALL of the intake manifold bolts. Trust me on this (I learned through trial and error throughout this job) - if you remove the manifold bolts first, you'll then be able to move the manifold outboard a bit to enable easy removal of the the two plenums.
The hardest job yet is finally upon you, your poor arms, and your patience. Trying to get the 10mm intake manifold bolts off is not easy - especially the last one in the very front (my favorite expression always began with an F. My neighbors probably think I'm crazy now - muttering to myself while hugging the engine of my beloved 996
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Make sure you have a magnetic pickup stick. You WILL drop sockets and bolts onto the case.
Now you can see the AOS at the front left. As my Porsche mechanic friend recommended to me, don't pull any water hoses off of it just yet. Pull off the big hose on the right (with that funny connector again) and that's all.
Now, head down underneath the car with a light and get into position to see the AOS from below. You'll see the bellows and it's clamps. My Porsche mechanic friend told me to just take some pliers, squeeze the clamp, and pull it (the clamp) up and off the metal tube that the bellows attaches to. It's a bit ungainly and will deform the hell out of the rubber bellows, but no worries - you have a new one. Now, take your trusty 10mm 1/4" drive socket and about 15 inches of extensions and come in from the side and remove the two bolts that hold the AOS onto the case. Get a screwdriver or something similar and start wedging it outboard. Once it's clear of the case, climb back topside, grab the AOS and pull it up and back toward the rear. Once you have it in front of you, it's a simple matter to pull off the two water hoses, but be aware that you will spill a few ounces of coolant, so have a small container ready for the overflow.
Woohoo!! The AOS is out!
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Manifold is now out and will be moving on to get the AOS out tonight or tomorrow!!
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cwbrown (12-22-2020)
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So I finally got the AOS out. Mine an 02 C4s, and the two 5mm hex key bolts secure the AOS to the block. Didn’t realize that and thought I had removed both mounting bolts when I actually only removed one and incorrectly removed a lower manifold bolt thinking it was for the AOS.
Anyway, still have to get all back together.
I was quoted 1250 to do it, and the car is stored now, so that’s why I figured I had the time to do it. It’s doable, but is a bit of pain. Had I been quoted 450, I would have dropped it off right away. I actually was hoping for an end of the year special and he’d offer to do it for $750, but he didn’t.
Anyway, still have to get all back together.
I was quoted 1250 to do it, and the car is stored now, so that’s why I figured I had the time to do it. It’s doable, but is a bit of pain. Had I been quoted 450, I would have dropped it off right away. I actually was hoping for an end of the year special and he’d offer to do it for $750, but he didn’t.