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Old 08-31-2010, 11:50 PM
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Hi Fellow Rennlisters,

As so many are posting about engines and not providing enough pictures, i have included pictures of the new factory engine i had installed in my var almost 2 years ago, due to a intermix problem that blew my original engine while on the track. Huge cloud of white smoke....

Almost 2 years later and 20 tracks days the engine and car are amazing,
no leaks, bone dry, and runs better than ever,,

Hope you enjoy the pictures
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SHINY !!

ME likey !!
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That would be nice to find under the Xmas tree this year...
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Additional components/perks folks often dont know are included when getting a Factory engine.
1. New Headers
2. New Alternator
3. New A/C compressor
4. Most recent IMS and seals
5. New Starter

Of course the price on these motors is going up, but these additional expensive components soften the blow somewhat.
I wish i had found this engine gift wrapped under the Xmas tree instead of paying.
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What does a brand new motor like that run?
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Originally Posted by Rob996
Additional components/perks folks often dont know are included when getting a Factory engine.
1. New Headers
2. New Alternator
3. New A/C compressor
4. Most recent IMS and seals
5. New Starter

Of course the price on these motors is going up, but these additional expensive components soften the blow somewhat.
I wish i had found this engine gift wrapped under the Xmas tree instead of paying.
The AC compressor isn't usually supplied with the new motors, unless you pay extra....
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Hey Rob, if you're nearly at 2 years, are you now looking for an after market warranty since the factory one will expire at 2 years. Just curious what you do as I got my new engine 4 months ago
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I know they're the bastard child of engines for Porsche...But I happen to like the M96! Lots of technology squeezed into a small package that runs economical, clean, and reliably. Sure it's had teething problems but the previous platform had 40 years of development to get perfected so of course it's going to be a bit more sorted out.

In any case, looks good!
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Pretty nifty getting that engine. Fantastic new toy to have. Looks like cosmolin isn't on the new engines unless its a light clear coat.
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Originally Posted by mavthenav
Hey Rob, if you're nearly at 2 years, are you now looking for an after market warranty since the factory one will expire at 2 years. Just curious what you do as I got my new engine 4 months ago
I dont believe any further warranties are available options, nor am i that interested. I still feel proper service and care with frequent oil changes is the best approach to extending engine life. My indy believes the M96 motor failures to be greatly blown out of proportion (pardun the pun). We discussed the LN
bearing upgrade, and he did not recommend installing this upgrade as he feels the new engine had all the latest enhancements.

The engine was about $12k plus my old core exchange.Plus installation and extras.$$$.. Neither my indy or I had expected the engine to include all the additional parts listed above.

FWIW, I just had the oil changed and replaced the Mobil 1, with AMS OIL Eurpoean Formula 4W40. My indy said Mobil had changed the recipe and AMS OIL was a better systhetic oil, and would provide better engine protection.
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Originally Posted by grantf
What does a brand new motor like that run?
I paid $8200 for mine Jan 2007. I checked with the dealer lately and full retail is $15K with cost at$12K...assuming they are being truthful about the cost.
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I would stick w/ the Porsche recommended or approved oil.

There is something called the 996FL engine test that oils applying for Porsche approval must meet:

http://www.roadrunner-region-pca.org...il_article.pdf

Also, the Porsche approval requirement appears to be an extension to the ACEA tests... namely oil foaming control:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...&Number=247596

Originally Posted by Doug Hillary
As well as ACEA A3/B3, one Porsche specific test protocol for instance is foaming control - foaming was a real issue in some Porsche engines
There are others too including oil durability which includes extended viscosity testing, volatility and etc
So it seems that, Mobil-1 0W-40 is an very good oil:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...1222040&page=3

Originally Posted by Doug Hillary
Hi,
many will read this as a biased Post of course. It is however meant to be a statement of facts!

1 - Porsche have used M1 0W-40 as THE Factory fill since January 2001. It still is! Dealer practiced Factory endorsed OCIs were - until the DI engines were introduced for MY08 engines - two years of 20kkms (12.5k miles). It is now 12 months and a similar distance

2 - A study of Porsche TISBs during that time have shown that there are no lubricant related issues with any Porsche engine family. Engine life has been exceptional in these cases

3 - M1 0W-40 is the only Factory endorsed lubricant to be used in the Cayenne twin turbo. It has been this way since the vehicle's introduction

4 - M1 0W-40 is used in the current Factory race cars and as well is endorsed by the Factory race Engineers I have been with

Some have been with Porsche as race car Engineers since the 1960s! They do NOT use M1 0W-40 in their old air-cooled engines although many people do

5 - Much of the above applies to Mercedes Benz too. In OZ the average OCI is around 17kkms (11k miles)

6 - I do not know of any lubricant related Warranty issues in either Benz (and AMG) or Porsche engines since using M 1 0W-40

7 - The ExxonMobil Add. Pack supplier's Engineers I have spoken with also endorse M1 0W-40 as being a wonderful and trouble free product

Some millions of engines Worldwide use it and many have done from new. I have yet to see any substantiated proof of a lubricant related engine failure where M1 0W-40 is a recommended product. This applies to excessive wear, reduced engine life or "unusual" component wear. I know of a number of engines with around 600kkms (375k miles) without a major component replacement

M1 0W-40 has the runs on the board - Worldwide!
Guys, Doug Hillary is a Porsche owner that has done quite a bit of legwork for us when the words "Porsche" and "oil" are uttered in the same sentence. He has a very impressive background and relationship w/ oil companies and Porsche that I could only dream of having.

/m
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Micheal, thanks for all the great engine oil info, as this can be a contenious subject.

It appears that everyone agrees on changing oil frequently, especially when the car is being tracked.

Thanks



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