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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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I need to get between -1 and -2 degrees of camber on my 996 for the track next weekend. Current setup tearing up front tires on certain high speed corners.

Any recommendations on equipment.

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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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please provide information on your current suspension and set, also what tires are you running?

you may require a some different suspension parts in order to get enough negative camber you
are looking for.
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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All stock just now no mods what so ever
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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OK seriously?

adding a ton of neg camber might help but there is more at play here than just that....you post that in the racing section and see how they treat the comment
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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My 02 996 stock suspension, max 3/4 degrees negative up front. Without boring out the strut bolt holes or buying aftermarket strut mounts, that's about all you can expect. For autocrossing, I add 1/4" spacers up front and pulled the rear toe-in to the minimum factory recommendation (almost 'straight up') and that helped tremendously.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:24 AM
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OK seriously?

adding a ton of neg camber might help but there is more at play here than just that....you post that in the racing section and see how they treat the comment
Yeah seriously, if I wanted to go racing I would buy a race car, just now I'm happy with DE's but not happy about the stock setup and the tire wear on my Nittos. So the next option is camber so the whole tire gets action. From what I've seen so far I could spend up to 5k on getting parts for this, that I don't want to spend. If it turns out I need to spend 5k on camber then the nittos just became a perishable item in my eyes
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by maintcon
My 02 996 stock suspension, max 3/4 degrees negative up front. Without boring out the strut bolt holes or buying aftermarket strut mounts, that's about all you can expect. For autocrossing, I add 1/4" spacers up front and pulled the rear toe-in to the minimum factory recommendation (almost 'straight up') and that helped tremendously.
Yeah that's the max I was expecting, I've looked at the aftermarket mounts and the $$$ keep adding up.

I was wondering if anyone else had done the same upgrades and if so what did they purchase
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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Just grab some lower gt3 control arms and some shims. Around $500 (memory might be off on price). Can get plenty of front negative camber and a slightly wider track to boot. Rear can get plenty without mods.

But, you need a bunch more suspension bits to do it right. When I'm on a computer and not this wacky iPhone I'll point you in the right direction.

-td
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Originally Posted by mavthenav
If it turns out I need to spend 5k on camber then the nittos just became a perishable item in my eyes
Sean, I think you have the answer right there!

After getting those wheels and putting my name on a set of cats, I will be wearing out the Sumis next weekend before trading up to the nittos in October.
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Do be aware that any mods you do to your suspension may bump you into a higher class if you autocross or time trial.
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As it's already been stated, GT3 lower control arms are the ticket for your setup. I'm not quite sure they're as cheap as $500 for the whole setup these days but it's money well spent either way.

There's also camber plates on the market. I think I saw a new manufacturer advertising in this section just a couple weeks ago. As a note however, they're all just copies of the factory upper monoball mount from the GT3 which can also be used on our cars and is cheaper than all the aftermarket mounts. I think GT3 mounts are like $150 each from sucoast. (search the GT3 section about rotating the top mounts for camber to see how this works). The real issue wtih the GT3 upper mounts if you're running everything else stock otherwise is your ride height might change by a few mm. I ran them on my 996 but with coilovers so height change wasn't an issue as I set height at the same time I set camber.

p.s. You'll really like the way the car drives with a little more camber in the front at the track. Starts to bring the front end to life.

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Originally Posted by sjfehr
Do be aware that any mods you do to your suspension may bump you into a higher class if you autocross or time trial.
No autocross for me, just instructing at the PDS is good enough fun for me. I like the high speed DE's
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Originally Posted by smorris
Sean, I think you have the answer right there!

After getting those wheels and putting my name on a set of cats, I will be wearing out the Sumis next weekend before trading up to the nittos in October.
Yeah new nitto's on order for next weekend since I cored the drivers side front last time taking 7 clockwise killed that tire.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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Just grab some lower gt3 control arms and some shims. Around $500 (memory might be off on price). Can get plenty of front negative camber and a slightly wider track to boot. Rear can get plenty without mods.

But, you need a bunch more suspension bits to do it right. When I'm on a computer and not this wacky iPhone I'll point you in the right direction.

-td
Thats one of the things my indy suggested before they went off on a $5k suspension upgrade pitch.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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I've been all over the place with the C2, a couple suspensions, GT3 bits everywhere, upgraded brakes, seats, harnesses, and a bunch of other stuff.

I'm also in H-town, so drop me a PM if you want to chat. Or post here as I'm not the only one that went crazy on their C2 for the track. Depending on what you are looking at, I can try to point you in the right direction in terms of cost/benefit etc.

BTW, who is your Indy? You don't need to spend $5K for a good compromise suspension. Hell, you could get mglobes JIC-Cross setup for way less than that - and then you would be ready to go.

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