2004 GT3 coilovers for 996C2
#31
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yup doing a bit of research as we speak. Id really like a gt3 sus. Would be one step closer to a real gt3. Why are all my favorite cars only avail in europe?? MK1?
#32
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A set of these on a 996 C2 will absolutely make it a track weapon. I did this transformation on my 996 a few years back and it has been an excellent setup (lookup my old thread on it for what you need).
I am not following all the mis info about not pairing this with track rubber, so the stock GT3 suspension is better than PSS9s but you shouldn't run R compound on the GT3 suspension? Yet the GT3 came stock with a variant of the MPSC (an R compound tire).
A good driver with this suspension and R6s should not be making any excuses of not being fast enough in the corners. Period. It takes a lot of talent and equipment to outshine this setup.
I know I will miss mine.
-Paul
I am not following all the mis info about not pairing this with track rubber, so the stock GT3 suspension is better than PSS9s but you shouldn't run R compound on the GT3 suspension? Yet the GT3 came stock with a variant of the MPSC (an R compound tire).
A good driver with this suspension and R6s should not be making any excuses of not being fast enough in the corners. Period. It takes a lot of talent and equipment to outshine this setup.
I know I will miss mine.
-Paul
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Actually it didn't. The 997 came with a street version of the MPSC.
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the monoball top hat can be obtained from tarett $500
rear drop link collar is a motorsport part, 993.333.513.80 about $400/pair.
with that in mind, that's why i dropped the price
rear drop link collar is a motorsport part, 993.333.513.80 about $400/pair.
with that in mind, that's why i dropped the price
#35
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For the price, that's a fantastic deal. Spend $700 on a set of coilovers, add the monoballs and collars and for less than 2k you have a system that is far superior to the PSS10!
Personally, I'd take it a step further, and get new springs and have the dampers sent off to Bilstein to re-valve to match the setup (something like $80 a damper).
Personally, I'd take it a step further, and get new springs and have the dampers sent off to Bilstein to re-valve to match the setup (something like $80 a damper).
#36
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Couple things to throw out there:
I think the OEM front top mounts are $200 ea. from Suncoast. They come up used every once in awhile. I sold a lot of 3 of them last year for stupid cheap.
It could be worth it to someone to look into seeing if the H&R coilover drop link collars work too. I'd bet they're a good bet less expensive than the OEM part if they have the same diameter and thread pitch.
I think the OEM front top mounts are $200 ea. from Suncoast. They come up used every once in awhile. I sold a lot of 3 of them last year for stupid cheap.
It could be worth it to someone to look into seeing if the H&R coilover drop link collars work too. I'd bet they're a good bet less expensive than the OEM part if they have the same diameter and thread pitch.
#38
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For the front if the stock sway bar is still used you don't even need he threaded drop link collar at all as you can still attach to the pinch bolt on the wheel carrier. Maybe those collars could even be used on the rear shocks? Dunno if diameter is different or not. If you've got GT3 bars in the front either the adjustable collar on the coilover is needed or adjustable drop links.
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Arlan Motorsport is another source for the drop link locator collar.
If you use the drop link collars and stock gt3 drop links with the gt3 sway bar it all lines up like the factory intended. The only need to adjustable drop links is to help take out some of the preload as you move the droplink across the range of the sway bar mounting holes.
If you use the drop link collars and stock gt3 drop links with the gt3 sway bar it all lines up like the factory intended. The only need to adjustable drop links is to help take out some of the preload as you move the droplink across the range of the sway bar mounting holes.
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Gonna have to strongly disagree based on my personal experience as well as that of a few other very good drivers. But sounds like a great way to justify the monoballs
There is no doubt that full monoballs everywhere is the better solution for a race car and on certainly on slicks.
There is no doubt that full monoballs everywhere is the better solution for a race car and on certainly on slicks.
Who said that? I can tell you that the suspension is NOT setup to run a Hoosier R6. The grip of the tire is not a good match for all the rubber in the suspension. There are other good DOT-R tires that are not as grippy that would be fine with the stock suspension (i.e., NT01 R888, etc).
Actually it didn't. The 997 came with a street version of the MPSC.
Actually it didn't. The 997 came with a street version of the MPSC.
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Gonna have to strongly disagree based on my personal experience as well as that of a few other very good drivers. But sounds like a great way to justify the monoballs
There is no doubt that full monoballs everywhere is the better solution for a race car and on certainly on slicks.
There is no doubt that full monoballs everywhere is the better solution for a race car and on certainly on slicks.
Tell me how you are supposed to make that happen on a stock suspension.
Just wasting your $$$ on R6's with a stock suspension.
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We are talking about a stock GT3 suspension and not a stock C2 suspension (wrt the shocks/springs and sway bars).
Someone had better tell the whole Spec 996 group that they are all making a terrible mistake specifying Hoosier R6s without a full monoball suspension.
Saying that the tires is part of the suspension and has its own spring rate is valid but there is no "fact" that the R6 is improper for a non monoball suspension, that is purely your own opinion.
Mooty, you may now have your for sale thread back.
-Paul
Someone had better tell the whole Spec 996 group that they are all making a terrible mistake specifying Hoosier R6s without a full monoball suspension.
Saying that the tires is part of the suspension and has its own spring rate is valid but there is no "fact" that the R6 is improper for a non monoball suspension, that is purely your own opinion.
Mooty, you may now have your for sale thread back.
-Paul
You can disagree as strong as you want and you can put whatever driver you want to stand behind your statement but the fact is Hooser R6's are not the proper tire for a stock suspension. Nobody said you can't run them. Heck, you can run anything you desire. But what you fail to realize is that the tire is part of the suspension and has it's own spring rate as well as alignment requirement.
Tell me how you are supposed to make that happen on a stock suspension.
Just wasting your $$$ on R6's with a stock suspension.
Tell me how you are supposed to make that happen on a stock suspension.
Just wasting your $$$ on R6's with a stock suspension.