IMS Question
07-11-2010, 08:03 PM
#1
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IMS Question
I just read that IMS failure rate may be as high as 10%.
Regardless of whether it's this high or not, it seems as though it happens often enough to be a major concern when purchasing a used Boxster, 996, or even a 997.
My question is how the heck does Porsche avoid a recall when other companies have far fewer instances of failure but ends up having to issue a recall??? Granted I understand that some of these are safety related but remember situations with single digit occurances ending with recalls in the tens of thousands.
Forgive me if this issue has been beaten to death but I'm amazed at how Porsche gets away with these defects. Remember timing chain tensions???
Regardless of whether it's this high or not, it seems as though it happens often enough to be a major concern when purchasing a used Boxster, 996, or even a 997.
My question is how the heck does Porsche avoid a recall when other companies have far fewer instances of failure but ends up having to issue a recall??? Granted I understand that some of these are safety related but remember situations with single digit occurances ending with recalls in the tens of thousands.
Forgive me if this issue has been beaten to death but I'm amazed at how Porsche gets away with these defects. Remember timing chain tensions???
07-11-2010, 10:25 PM
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One last time... RMS and IMS and AOS and D-chunk and slipped sleeves are not SAFETY related problems. Nor do they cause CO EMISSIONS violations. Thus no Federal mandatory recall. If Porsche chooses to overlook poor quality or bad engineering, then that is their business and the customers to decide. No different than avoiding or buying a Chevy Vega.
How full is your glass? Is it 10% empty, or 90% full? Are you a gambler or a Chicken Little. Buy a 996 or 997 and use the available preventative measures. Or wait until the 997.2's show up on the resale market. Of course, by then there will be plenty of identified issues and weakness for those.
What will you drive while you wait?
How full is your glass? Is it 10% empty, or 90% full? Are you a gambler or a Chicken Little. Buy a 996 or 997 and use the available preventative measures. Or wait until the 997.2's show up on the resale market. Of course, by then there will be plenty of identified issues and weakness for those.
What will you drive while you wait?
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07-11-2010, 11:11 PM
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A quick search for "IMS" & "RMS" in this forum will give you all the info you could want. After that, try Google and get even more. I doubt that a new thread on this subject will gain you any new insights.
07-12-2010, 01:33 AM
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i've done the searches and I agree that there are tons of threads on the IMS/RMS issue. However, most will delve into the technicalities of the problem rather than why or how Porsche gets away with no recalls when other car manufacturers (I guess) self impose recalls to fix defects.
On the other hand, given prior responses, I've never been one to bash anyone for posting a question, no matter how stupid it may seem. Isn't that what this forum is for?
Roadsession, I did see post 4 and appreciated the response.
Last edited by reynwerkes; 07-12-2010 at 01:48 AM.
07-12-2010, 01:48 AM
#13
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One last time... RMS and IMS and AOS and D-chunk and slipped sleeves are not SAFETY related problems. Nor do they cause CO EMISSIONS violations. Thus no Federal mandatory recall. If Porsche chooses to overlook poor quality or bad engineering, then that is their business and the customers to decide. No different than avoiding or buying a Chevy Vega.
How full is your glass? Is it 10% empty, or 90% full? Are you a gambler or a Chicken Little. Buy a 996 or 997 and use the available preventative measures. Or wait until the 997.2's show up on the resale market. Of course, by then there will be plenty of identified issues and weakness for those.
What will you drive while you wait?
How full is your glass? Is it 10% empty, or 90% full? Are you a gambler or a Chicken Little. Buy a 996 or 997 and use the available preventative measures. Or wait until the 997.2's show up on the resale market. Of course, by then there will be plenty of identified issues and weakness for those.
What will you drive while you wait?
07-12-2010, 01:48 AM
#14
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HoosierChristian,
i've done the searches and I agree that there are tons of threads on the IMS/RMS issue. However, most will delve into the technicalities of the problem rather than why or how Porsche gets away with no recalls when other car manufacturers (I guess) self impose recalls to fix defects.
On the other hand, given prior responses, I've never been one to bash anyone for posting a question, no matter how stupid it may seem. Isn't that what this forum is for?
i've done the searches and I agree that there are tons of threads on the IMS/RMS issue. However, most will delve into the technicalities of the problem rather than why or how Porsche gets away with no recalls when other car manufacturers (I guess) self impose recalls to fix defects.
On the other hand, given prior responses, I've never been one to bash anyone for posting a question, no matter how stupid it may seem. Isn't that what this forum is for?
