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Old 01-28-2010, 05:46 PM
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Default New engine versus Reman

I just had a reman 3.6 engine put into my 02 C4S by Porsche under warranty. The dealer told me that the Reman engines were basically brand new or had a minor issue which would have been repaired. The Reman engine is an 05 model based on the engine number.

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a new engine and a Reman one? And if there is no difference, why does Porsche insist on calling them Reman?

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a new engine is made with all new parts (no used) and a re-man is made with some used and some new

therefore it is most likely a tracking term so they know what engines are new and which ones are re-builds...

did you have a choice?
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They are called remanufactured because they are remanufactured. My thoughts are the cores turned in during times like yours are stripped down and quality checked for cases and other major parts that are good. Then Porsche takes all the still good stuff and makes it a remanufactured engine for resale with your replacement plan if it goes bad.

I'd like to see some performance upgrade options in the remanufactured engine deal but eh.
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You can always check to see if you can replace it with an x-51.
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It's probably illegal for them to call a remanufactured engine anything other than a remanufactured engine.
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Question Relative reliability of remanufactured engines

This brings up an interesting question. My car (1999 C4) has a remanufactured engine that was installed in Oct 2007. It has about 20K miles on it.

How reliable is the rebuilt engine likely to be (it is a MY2000) compared what it would have been originally (i.e. because it is remanufactured is it less likely to have RMS/IMS issues?). The reason I ask, it that I am about to replace that transmission and while in there I could do the LNE upgrade for not a lot more money.

Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by fbgh2o
This brings up an interesting question. My car (1999 C4) has a remanufactured engine that was installed in Oct 2007. It has about 20K miles on it.

How reliable is the rebuilt engine likely to be (it is a MY2000) compared what it would have been originally (i.e. because it is remanufactured is it less likely to have RMS/IMS issues?). The reason I ask, it that I am about to replace that transmission and while in there I could do the LNE upgrade for not a lot more money.

Thoughts?
I was talking to a porsche master mechanic a few days ago about the IMS issue and asking him for help replacing my bearing. He said even the remans "with all the upgrades" are failing as well. He said it is also not just limited to the 996 but to the 997 as well. He said there seems to be sweet spots for the failure 5K 30K and 120K miles.
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Did you say 120?
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Thats what he said. I am going to be spending a good day with him. Ill have more info then!
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Originally Posted by ivangene
Did you say 120?
Let's get him man hehehe

Originally Posted by russo
It's probably illegal for them to call a remanufactured engine anything other than a remanufactured engine.
I wanted to say that but, 'you aint getting anything free' was included.

I actually view a remanufactured engine as better than new in the aspect of machinings and other impurity items aren't as bad as new engines have.

I will say for you guys getting new or remanufactured engines and please follow along. A break in period highly involves both engine break in and getting the break in oil out in relatively a short period. Say a few months max. Do not figure you haven't done the break in miles so drag your feet till the mileage is met before dumping the oil. The oil during a break in takes a hit from the stuff it gets in it. Get that stuff/oil out and if you still haven't finished the miles break in run it up to to the miles changing oil every so often till you get there. New engines mainly concern bearing lubes and machining metals. Even remanufactured engines are going to dump their bearing lubes and some shavings from unbroken in metal parts making their mating. blah blah blah take care of that replacement engine. To be a nag even more think about silt being in the oil and settling on your bearings for the crank and such after turning off the engine. Take care.
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Minor issue.... Thats funny.
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My reman is running great. Generally hear very positive comments about them. Of course, one of the highlights is the two-year warranty!
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Minor issue.... Thats funny.
That's why I'm asking the question. My CPO ends in 6 months and I'd rather go to a 996TT than go through this again but this time at my expense.
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Originally Posted by ivangene
a new engine is made with all new parts (no used) and a re-man is made with some used and some new

therefore it is most likely a tracking term so they know what engines are new and which ones are re-builds...

did you have a choice?
No. As the man said, " if you come in with a Bic pen, Porsche wants you to leave with a Bic pen" albeit one that works. Also, because it was at Porsche's expense, no warranty extension on the Reman engine other than my original CPO.
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Originally Posted by fbgh2o
This brings up an interesting question. My car (1999 C4) has a remanufactured engine that was installed in Oct 2007. It has about 20K miles on it.

How reliable is the rebuilt engine likely to be (it is a MY2000) compared what it would have been originally (i.e. because it is remanufactured is it less likely to have RMS/IMS issues?). The reason I ask, it that I am about to replace that transmission and while in there I could do the LNE upgrade for not a lot more money.

Thoughts?
I'd probably do the LNE update. I'm considering that as well if I decide to keep the car.


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