question: choice between a 996 C4S or 997?
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there's certainly a difference and you feel it right away. Especially when driven back to back. It will feel like you went from a Ferrari f430 to a Porsche 996 4.0.
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Going to bump this thread again like the other guy did. I'm in the market for my first Porsche 911 and I'm torn as well. Except I'm torn between strapping myself a bit and buying a 996 Turbo (2001-2004 ish) OR the almost mint condition 2003 996 C4S I drove a week or so ago. (I have a thread about a Turbo I'm looking at already).
Silver 996 C4S, Manual, ONLY 23,300 miles and claims to never has seen rain. Looks almost brand new. Silver / Black interior. He was asking $42K but knows that was high... I have him agreed to a deal for the car at $35k...Me Knowing that I'll be spending $2-$3K for the IMS / RMS , water pump, and maybe a clutch while in there. I'd be into a very low mile beautifully clean 2004 C4S for $37-$38K... I know that's probably still a little high but It will be my toy and not a daily driver. Miles will not rack up on this car, so hopefully resale with be decent when time comes.
Now, I really love power and have had many high hp toys over the years (last toy made 1053 WHP). So I really want a turbo but we're talking $45-$55K at least.
Any pros here have advice for this guy on what I should do (specifically about this C4S?? Price still too high or being in such awesome condition, is it okay??)
Thanks in advance,
David
Silver 996 C4S, Manual, ONLY 23,300 miles and claims to never has seen rain. Looks almost brand new. Silver / Black interior. He was asking $42K but knows that was high... I have him agreed to a deal for the car at $35k...Me Knowing that I'll be spending $2-$3K for the IMS / RMS , water pump, and maybe a clutch while in there. I'd be into a very low mile beautifully clean 2004 C4S for $37-$38K... I know that's probably still a little high but It will be my toy and not a daily driver. Miles will not rack up on this car, so hopefully resale with be decent when time comes.
Now, I really love power and have had many high hp toys over the years (last toy made 1053 WHP). So I really want a turbo but we're talking $45-$55K at least.
Any pros here have advice for this guy on what I should do (specifically about this C4S?? Price still too high or being in such awesome condition, is it okay??)
Thanks in advance,
David
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I'm not going to give you any advice on pricing, as I've been out of the 996 market for a long time. I loved my 996 C4S, and I had a good experience with it overall. That being said, the turbo is a special car in many ways. It still represents the best value on the market in a high-performance car, in my opinion. It uses the Mezger engine, which has legitimate roots in racing. It can be had with a manual transmission, while current turbos only offer PDK gearboxes. If I were buying a 996 right now, it would be a turbo.
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I won't tell you what to do except this....get the PPI done on the c4s.....sounds like a great deal...Is it a Cabrio or coupe....?
I agree the turbo is a special car and I would likely have spent a bit more if it could have....Keep in mind with the turbo, you won't have to deal with the IMS/RMS replacement issue which can be factored in...I would also recommending driving the thing as that is what it is meant to do (i..e, worrying about resale...in Europe it is a badge of honor for them to have higher miles and still on the road...) just sayin...
I absolutely love driving my c4s though....
I agree the turbo is a special car and I would likely have spent a bit more if it could have....Keep in mind with the turbo, you won't have to deal with the IMS/RMS replacement issue which can be factored in...I would also recommending driving the thing as that is what it is meant to do (i..e, worrying about resale...in Europe it is a badge of honor for them to have higher miles and still on the road...) just sayin...
I absolutely love driving my c4s though....
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I'm not going to give you any advice on pricing, as I've been out of the 996 market for a long time. I loved my 996 C4S, and I had a good experience with it overall. That being said, the turbo is a special car in many ways. It still represents the best value on the market in a high-performance car, in my opinion. It uses the Mezger engine, which has legitimate roots in racing. It can be had with a manual transmission, while current turbos only offer PDK gearboxes. If I were buying a 996 right now, it would be a turbo.
i agree on the Turbo and if you knew me, that's exactly what I want. But, I'm just a "working class" car guy. A poor old police officer "Car Guy". I work lots of off-duty details for my play / toy money. Buying a turbo would stretch me thinner than the C4S would. REALLY tough call for me. But I know I want a 911. Always have had. Had an 84 928 but that doesn't count.
I am however afraid if I don't buy a 996 Turbo now, they may go up and price me out of them soon.
Tough call. Thanks for the reply though.
I won't tell you what to do except this....get the PPI done on the c4s.....sounds like a great deal...Is it a Cabrio or coupe....?
I agree the turbo is a special car and I would likely have spent a bit more if it could have....Keep in mind with the turbo, you won't have to deal with the IMS/RMS replacement issue which can be factored in...I would also recommending driving the thing as that is what it is meant to do (i..e, worrying about resale...in Europe it is a badge of honor for them to have higher miles and still on the road...) just sayin...
I absolutely love driving my c4s though....
I agree the turbo is a special car and I would likely have spent a bit more if it could have....Keep in mind with the turbo, you won't have to deal with the IMS/RMS replacement issue which can be factored in...I would also recommending driving the thing as that is what it is meant to do (i..e, worrying about resale...in Europe it is a badge of honor for them to have higher miles and still on the road...) just sayin...
I absolutely love driving my c4s though....
IMS/RMS get's done and I won't have to worry about it for a long while again. I've owned a bunch of cars over my 45-46 years, so I would think at some point I'd sell this one too and move on to something else fun. Plus having it done would help future buyers purchase decision.
Thanks for the reply also Sir!!
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2.5 years later, I just did an autotrader search and found a 997 C4S in this particular color, with only 23K on it.....but price is 50K......about 20K more than I spent for mine.....If it was available at the time, I would have likely given it a test drive and considered it...I like the headlights better on 997, but like the tail lights better on the 996
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Going to bump this thread again like the other guy did. I'm in the market for my first Porsche 911 and I'm torn as well. Except I'm torn between strapping myself a bit and buying a 996 Turbo (2001-2004 ish) OR the almost mint condition 2003 996 C4S I drove a week or so ago. (I have a thread about a Turbo I'm looking at already).
Silver 996 C4S, Manual, ONLY 23,300 miles and claims to never has seen rain. Looks almost brand new. Silver / Black interior. He was asking $42K but knows that was high... I have him agreed to a deal for the car at $35k...Me Knowing that I'll be spending $2-$3K for the IMS / RMS , water pump, and maybe a clutch while in there. I'd be into a very low mile beautifully clean 2004 C4S for $37-$38K... I know that's probably still a little high but It will be my toy and not a daily driver. Miles will not rack up on this car, so hopefully resale with be decent when time comes.
Now, I really love power and have had many high hp toys over the years (last toy made 1053 WHP). So I really want a turbo but we're talking $45-$55K at least.
Any pros here have advice for this guy on what I should do (specifically about this C4S?? Price still too high or being in such awesome condition, is it okay??)
Thanks in advance,
David
Silver 996 C4S, Manual, ONLY 23,300 miles and claims to never has seen rain. Looks almost brand new. Silver / Black interior. He was asking $42K but knows that was high... I have him agreed to a deal for the car at $35k...Me Knowing that I'll be spending $2-$3K for the IMS / RMS , water pump, and maybe a clutch while in there. I'd be into a very low mile beautifully clean 2004 C4S for $37-$38K... I know that's probably still a little high but It will be my toy and not a daily driver. Miles will not rack up on this car, so hopefully resale with be decent when time comes.
Now, I really love power and have had many high hp toys over the years (last toy made 1053 WHP). So I really want a turbo but we're talking $45-$55K at least.
Any pros here have advice for this guy on what I should do (specifically about this C4S?? Price still too high or being in such awesome condition, is it okay??)
Thanks in advance,
David
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b3freak: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey what are you doing here??? Don't you have some work to do?
AWDGuy: Not anymore, I quit 996. I quit M96. I quit Porsche!!! I quit!!!
b3freak: Oh, well since when are YOU the quitting kind?
AWDGuy: I don't know, with all I've given to this C4S and it still craps up, I just don't see the point anymore.
b3freak: So you didn't get the Turbo, there are greater tragies in the world.
AWDGuy: I wanted to drive out of that tunnell for my dad. To prove to everyone that I made it in life!
b3freak: PROVE WHAT?
AWDGuy: That I was somebody. A TurBRO man!
b3freak: Oh you are so full of crap. It's overweight, fat hips, and hardly a spec of horse power more than the others and you hung in with the best sport cars in the land for three years, and you were also going to walk out of here with a degree from the University of Wedontgivea Dame... in this life time, you don't have to prove nothing to nobody except yourself and after what you've gone through, if you haven't done that by now, it aint gonna never happen, now go on back. Get behind that steering wheel and drive like it's your last day on earth!