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Old 10-04-2009, 03:43 AM
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Get yourself a dirt bike. Way more fun and involving than a street bike. Better scenery, more thrills (at much lower speeds), and with single track riding no cars to run you over.

Cheers,
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Old 10-04-2009, 04:07 AM
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Phil,

How about something with a side-car??

I dunno...take the class and see if ur still crazy about the idea.

Oh, and get a DEXA scan before you buy, motorcycles and osteoporosis don't mix.
Old 10-04-2009, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by medtech
Oh, and get a DEXA scan before you buy, motorcycles and osteoporosis don't mix.
Hell, I'm not THAT old!! But, I'm really concerned about the bone(s) surrounding my brain.
Old 10-04-2009, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gota911
Maybe that's why he wants to get a bike so he can change his image.
Nope - I actually want to keep my image just as is.

Originally Posted by Wellardmac
I'm starting to think that a Corvette might be just what Phil is looking for.
NEVER. I'll get a Honda first. Hmmm, no - Corvette first, Honda fifth.
Old 10-04-2009, 09:54 AM
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Phil,
you live in the US where there is only one brand of bike to consider: MV Agusta!

Not really a beginner friendly bike, but after you get some experience on a smaller displacement bike and feel comfortable (look at sv650's, ninja500's, cbr600 f4i's, ducati monster 696's and other stuff maybe to start out on), you should give them a look. In canada they're not legal otherwise i'd own one in a heartbeat.
Old 10-05-2009, 12:26 AM
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There are some good and informal groups of motorcyclists in the Phila. area, including:

www.philadelphiariders.com

When you tell people you ride, the first thing they ask is if you have a Harley. You just have to be patient with them. (Nothing against Harleys, they just don't address most of what I like about motorcycles very well.) My garage currently has bikes from Germany (West and East), Italy, Austria and England.

A few thoughts on some prior posts:

-You are right to think small for a first bike. I think it makes learning easier and safer. That said, I think it makes sense to get something with decent suspension and brakes. I know several folks who started out on SV650s. A bigger & more powerful bike than I started on, but may suit you. I think the new Bonneville is worth a look as well. Stop in at Manyaunk Triumph. The owner, Buzz, has instructed MSF courses for many years.

-MV Agusta is a very special motorcycle, but not something for the beginner. If you want an Italian bike that's good for a beginner look at the Moto Guzzi 750 Breva or V7 Classic. Ferracci in Willow Grove is a Guzzi dealer, so you can drool on the MV Agustas while you're there.

-Dirt bikes. jmarch makes some excellent points. After many years of street riding I started dirt (dual sport) riding. Some of my best riding experiences of late have been off road. Its basically replaced track days for me.
Old 10-05-2009, 12:31 AM
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might get more use out of this instead...

Old 10-05-2009, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chriswaxman
There are some good and informal groups of motorcyclists in the Phila. area, including:

www.philadelphiariders.com

When you tell people you ride, the first thing they ask is if you have a Harley. You just have to be patient with them. (Nothing against Harleys, they just don't address most of what I like about motorcycles very well.) My garage currently has bikes from Germany (West and East), Italy, Austria and England.

A few thoughts on some prior posts:

-You are right to think small for a first bike. I think it makes learning easier and safer. That said, I think it makes sense to get something with decent suspension and brakes. I know several folks who started out on SV650s. A bigger & more powerful bike than I started on, but may suit you. I think the new Bonneville is worth a look as well. Stop in at Manyaunk Triumph. The owner, Buzz, has instructed MSF courses for many years.

-MV Agusta is a very special motorcycle, but not something for the beginner. If you want an Italian bike that's good for a beginner look at the Moto Guzzi 750 Breva or V7 Classic. Ferracci in Willow Grove is a Guzzi dealer, so you can drool on the MV Agustas while you're there.

-Dirt bikes. jmarch makes some excellent points. After many years of street riding I started dirt (dual sport) riding. Some of my best riding experiences of late have been off road. Its basically replaced track days for me.
Thanks for the tips - I will check out the Willow Grove dealer (and the Agustas) and the website. A scooter is definitely OUT!! They're a bit creepy, even for me.
Old 10-05-2009, 09:29 AM
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I still think the BMW F650GS is a good idea - simple belt drive. It is actually a detuned F800GS (I'm partial to BMW's)
Old 10-05-2009, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jmarch
Get yourself a dirt bike. Way more fun and involving than a street bike. Better scenery, more thrills (at much lower speeds), and with single track riding no cars to run you over.

Cheers,
Joe
+1... I just spent the weekend in Utah on my dirtbike and Joe is absolutely correct. Much more physically demanding, unbelievable scenery and no traffic to 'play with'. You might be geographically-challenged for endless singletrack trails, however...just buy one and keep it out West where it can be used.
Old 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM
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I am done riding/stunting, too many killed around me.

Now if I can survive my red beast.
Old 10-06-2009, 10:53 PM
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dude, you are a brave soul if you are planning to ride in philly.
Old 10-06-2009, 11:09 PM
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Phil, I predict you'll be just as safe looking at a bike sit in your garage as you were looking at a Porsche in the garage....

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jk of course. Saftey is a definate concern with motorcycles. Be safe if you get one.
Old 10-07-2009, 12:46 AM
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pulled out of work today, the first light is a double turn lane (left) got around the corner and a van in front of me moved from the inside lane to the outside lane and pushed a motorcycle right off the road....just kept right on driving....

He looked pissed, shaking his head and fist in the air.....but didnt try and run the van down (smart) - I drove home thinking.... yep, my wife was right, too dangerous anymore

on the way home I counted 6 cars in a row pass me with people talking on the cell phone and 1 typing on one, and one ? reading one. (we have a no cell phone while driving law too)
Old 10-07-2009, 11:52 AM
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I think all of you are trying to protect me from myself. I take that as a sign of friendship and concern. I still will likely take the course but may decide it's just nuts to get a bike. If I do, Philly would be the LAST place I'd ride. Now, Bucks County on a Sunday morning would be fun (and safer).


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