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If we were talking Porsche paint you could probably get away with just SIP on an orange pad as it's soft and fairly easy to work with from a detailing perspective.
However Audi / VW paint is well known as some of the hardest paint in the industry. With some time and effort the SIP and organge pad may do the job it'll probably just take multiple passes.
Oh...and the above comment about SIP having fillers is spot on. Inspect your work in the sun with an alcohol wipe down to make sure you're really getting the results you're after.
However Audi / VW paint is well known as some of the hardest paint in the industry. With some time and effort the SIP and organge pad may do the job it'll probably just take multiple passes.
Oh...and the above comment about SIP having fillers is spot on. Inspect your work in the sun with an alcohol wipe down to make sure you're really getting the results you're after.
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Here are some photos that I just took of the car. As you can see, not bad shape for 100k miles.
![](http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll418/ryangambrill/IMG_1319.jpg)
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You can see some lighter color marks in the hood. Much more noticeable in the sunlight with your eyes.
![](http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll418/ryangambrill/IMG_1319.jpg)
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You can see some lighter color marks in the hood. Much more noticeable in the sunlight with your eyes.
![](http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll418/ryangambrill/IMG_1322.jpg)
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Griot's has a distribution facility just outside of Indy. Been there for a 'How to" and came away with $650 of stuff. I went 1/2's with my neighbor. We have two porter Cable buffers 3" and 6" all the polishes, rags, dry towels, micro fibers and much much more. They called it the "I want it all kit". We had suckers written all over our face. But it actually was a great buy. This was 2 years ago and we both use this stuff on a regular basis. Have to say the key is the quality of the clay bar. That stuff is priceless.
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I apologize, as I made an error. My fingernail is not catching any of the scratches. I was thinking that I would not need the Power Gloss.
Am I correct? If so, here is the process I was thinking:
1. Menzerna Super Intensive Polish - White Pad http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-sup...ve-polish.html
2. Menzerna Finishing Polish - Black Pad http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-fin...sh-po85rd.html
3. Zaino Z2 w/ ZFX - http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...oduct_Count=11
4. Zaino Z6 Spray - http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...oduct_Count=13
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Should I apply the SIP (Step 1) to only the scratched areas, or should I do the entire car?
Am I correct? If so, here is the process I was thinking:
1. Menzerna Super Intensive Polish - White Pad http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-sup...ve-polish.html
2. Menzerna Finishing Polish - Black Pad http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-fin...sh-po85rd.html
3. Zaino Z2 w/ ZFX - http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...oduct_Count=11
4. Zaino Z6 Spray - http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...oduct_Count=13
Questions:
Should I apply the SIP (Step 1) to only the scratched areas, or should I do the entire car?
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Add an orange pad. As a matter of fact...you're better off with 2 pads in each color (orange / white / black). They will saturate with product before you're finished with the car and they're less effective once they get to that point.
This way you can change up the agressiveness with both pad and polish. Orange / SIP being your most agressive combo where it's needed.
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This way you can change up the agressiveness with both pad and polish. Orange / SIP being your most agressive combo where it's needed.
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Add an orange pad. As a matter of fact...you're better off with 2 pads in each color (orange / white / black). They will saturate with product before you're finished with the car and they're less effective once they get to that point.
This way you can change up the agressiveness with both pad and polish. Orange / SIP being your most agressive combo where it's needed.
Andy
This way you can change up the agressiveness with both pad and polish. Orange / SIP being your most agressive combo where it's needed.
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Should I apply the SIP (Step 1) to only the scratched areas, or should I do the entire car?
How should I was all of the pads and applicators?
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I would first apply the SIP to a small area regardless of whether there are prominent scratches. Try to work a small area, no bigger than 2 square feet. IF you can choose an inconspicuous are first to get used to the technique and pressure that would be best. Then use it on all the scratched areas. You can use it on the whole car, (probably advisable, but wait until you've seen how different your 2x2 SIP work areas look compared to the unpolished sections of the vehicle, and then make a decision), then jewel the finish with the 85RD
Soft bristle brush and water should be all the product you need to keep pads clean, provided you clean them immediately after doing the work.
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Thanks. The paint is in really good shape, considering age and miles. I am going to try just the SIP on the scratched areas on the hood. If it turns out well, then I will just use the finishing polish on the whole car.
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One last tip - expect there to be a learning curve even with the PC. You can't just expect to turn it on, glide it across the surface even with the right pad and polish and have great results the first time. If you're not getting the results you desire play around with applied pressure (usually just bogging the machine works best for defect removal), working time for the polish and number of passes / attempts. I always use speed 6 for cutting as well.
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I was taught: weight of the machine is max pressure and lift slightly for the final pass, any more and you should use a more aggressive product. It is much safer with a PC to use pressure though. I would recommend as little pressure as possible and if the scratches don't come out, take the car to a professional. Believe it or not, done correctly, color sanding is safer than buffing for scratch removal.
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I was taught: weight of the machine is max pressure and lift slightly for the final pass, any more and you should use a more aggressive product. It is much safer with a PC to use pressure though. I would recommend as little pressure as possible and if the scratches don't come out, take the car to a professional. Believe it or not, done correctly, color sanding is safer than buffing for scratch removal.
There's been alot of findings as of latge in how to be much more effective with a PC. Search on Autopia for the "Kevin Brown method". This has come about with the new polishes that no longer contain diminishing abrasives but can still be applied with conventional polishes as well.
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I am a huge fan of 3M products, as I think they work better than anything else. They are a little tricky to work with at first, but once you get it down, you will never be disappointed with the results.
Since you are a VW guy as well, there is a really good detailing forum with some extremely knowledgeable people here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=24
You can see my detailing thread about my 911 here: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...cs-inside.html
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Since you are a VW guy as well, there is a really good detailing forum with some extremely knowledgeable people here: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=24
You can see my detailing thread about my 911 here: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...cs-inside.html
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You can get the jest of it if you search through the threads and only take the informaiton from credible people. One of my buddies in Atlanta was an early adopter and swears by it. I still feel there's quite a few situations where I need to use a rotary in order to keep cutting time down but do understand the value in the KB method.
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I've never seen a copy of it and I was supposed to be on a list of people who would get it.
You can get the jest of it if you search through the threads and only take the informaiton from credible people. One of my buddies in Atlanta was an early adopter and swears by it. I still feel there's quite a few situations where I need to use a rotary in order to keep cutting time down but do understand the value in the KB method.
You can get the jest of it if you search through the threads and only take the informaiton from credible people. One of my buddies in Atlanta was an early adopter and swears by it. I still feel there's quite a few situations where I need to use a rotary in order to keep cutting time down but do understand the value in the KB method.