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Old 07-18-2009 | 12:33 AM
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agreed with all! why worry about prices, cooling, etc...JUST DRIVE IT!
Old 07-18-2009 | 11:01 AM
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15 years ago this could have been the SC thread. In another 15 years when the 996 aren't just "used cars" and considering the rate that the engines are blowing up, the one that is left will be priceless!!
Old 07-18-2009 | 12:21 PM
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Excellence is getting less and less relevant with every "market update" they do.

When I had the 993, I would compare Bruce's values with what cars sold for every day and it was so far off it was funny. Now, looking at the 996 edition, the high-low ranges are so wide they provide no utility at all. Thanks, guys, I'll offer between $22k and $57k for that car. Good to know.

That said, at least the 996 values do seem to correspond vaguely with what these cars really sell for.

One more point: if you read Bruce's evaluations of individual sales, you'll see that he has a mainstream car idea of what constitutes low mileage. Any car with less that 8k miles per year gets an "add XX% for low mileage" and that includes 80% of Porsches out there. For a marque where values are so closely correlated with mileage (stupid, IMO, but that's for another thread) that's a major factor.
Old 07-18-2009 | 08:56 PM
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^^^ What they said. I'd say they present the best value in the entire model line at present.
Old 07-18-2009 | 10:07 PM
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Hey RallyJon - is it my imagination or does the 996 have 'that' much more gitty-up than the 993?!?!? The 996 seems to pull way stronger than the 993 (95's are my sop data point though). Even my tippy.

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Old 07-18-2009 | 11:05 PM
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Well, yeah. With the 3.6 vario-everything, I figure it's 18% more hp and 13% more ft-lbs (and it seems like about 30% more ft-lbs at 3000 rpm) with only 5% more weight and a shorter geared transmission.

Kept above 4500rpm, the 993 is only a bit slower. But with the 996 there's a lot more usable midrange, where in the 993 you always had to plan ahead and drop two gears.
Old 07-18-2009 | 11:22 PM
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Yes - it does feel stronger in the mid-range with a little less drama happening with the RPMs.

Originally Posted by RallyJon
Well, yeah. With the 3.6 vario-everything, I figure it's 18% more hp and 13% more ft-lbs (and it seems like about 30% more ft-lbs at 3000 rpm) with only 5% more weight and a shorter geared transmission.

Kept above 4500rpm, the 993 is only a bit slower. But with the 996 there's a lot more usable midrange, where in the 993 you always had to plan ahead and drop two gears.
Old 07-19-2009 | 03:18 AM
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996's lighter than the 993...
Old 07-19-2009 | 06:32 AM
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They're getting so cheap im going to buy another one. - just for parts.

Old 07-19-2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahmet
996's lighter than the 993...
Some are, some aren't. I was using my specific comparison.
Old 07-19-2009 | 06:06 PM
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Sell this for 30K ? You're kidding right? I think I will hold on to it if it's all the same to you.

Old 07-19-2009 | 10:15 PM
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+1000 , definitely don't sell, but it's still a great time to buy!
Old 07-20-2009 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by John Henry III - AZ
Sell this for 30K ? You're kidding right? I think I will hold on to it if it's all the same to you.
Bruce says a low of $27.2 and a high of $41.4. Seems pretty close to reality, allowing for mileage. Anyone asking in the $40s these days for a 996 C4S better have <20k miles and some concours trophies. Or a couple of turbochargers that they forgot to mention in the ad.

Seems like yours would still pull well over $30k though.
Old 07-20-2009 | 02:39 AM
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03 with 23 on the clock. It's not a daily driver but I drive it. No concourse trophies but I hav'nt tried. I take the wheels off when I wash it if that says anything...I have had it for 2 years and really enjoy it. It's paid for so I an hanging on to it for a while.



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