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Old 07-28-2018, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
2004 AE - My Indy added zip ties a couple of months ago - not sure why but just found out when local dealer brought them to my attention as if it were a disaster waiting to happen. What is the issue if the zip ties fail? Thanks.
On mine, I could not engage Reverse, 1st, 3rd, 5th. This left me with just 2nd, 4th, 6th. This happened miles from home, but I still made it back by avoiding stopping where possible, and slipping the clutch in 2nd gear a bit to get going where necessary. I did have to push the car back out of my parking space :-)
Zip ties fixed the issue when I got home and the car jacked up, must say that the shift feel has vastly improved.Oh yeah, the onset of the problem for me was a track day. I think the G forces can encourage the cable to move out from the bracket.
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Zip ties work fine. Safety wires do the same job, but do not degrade with UV, so last longer.
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Was at Sebring a few weeks ago on a DE, on the second session getting out of the hair pin, the car wouldn't get out of 3rd and i had no feeling on the shift.

Limped back to the pits to discover both cables had come off the bracket. Zip tied them in place and finished the day. I will drill the bracket and safety wire them in place, I like that better than zip ties that can brake.
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Originally Posted by shft22
Was at Sebring a few weeks ago on a DE, on the second session getting out of the hair pin, the car wouldn't get out of 3rd and i had no feeling on the shift.

Limped back to the pits to discover both cables had come off the bracket. Zip tied them in place and finished the day. I will drill the bracket and safety wire them in place, I like that better than zip ties that can brake.
^the chances of them breaking on their own are pretty slim... For track use I could see them breaking if you hit some debris on the track after an accident (I think for track use wiring them may be required). When I changed my cable out to the Numeric cables, mine had been zip tied for about three years...I cut them and put new ones on when I was done...
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I think it is hard to argue that zip ties are more durable than a safety wire.

A quick google search on "zip tie brittle" will lead you to many manufacturer and distributor sites that will say that non-metallic zip ties get brittle over time, especially in temperature extremes and very low humidity. Apparently, most are made of Nylon 6/6 material which is susceptible to this.

That shouldn't stop anyone from using zip ties, but for my time/effort/money, I'll stick with safety wire.
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I'm a fan of safety wire, especially near heat or when subjected to vibration.
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I used the heavy gauge green coated ground wire like used on homes. Seems to be plenty strong for the long haul.
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Originally Posted by cds72911
I think it is hard to argue that zip ties are more durable than a safety wire.

A quick google search on "zip tie brittle" will lead you to many manufacturer and distributor sites that will say that non-metallic zip ties get brittle over time, especially in temperature extremes and very low humidity. Apparently, most are made of Nylon 6/6 material which is susceptible to this.

That shouldn't stop anyone from using zip ties, but for my time/effort/money, I'll stick with safety wire.
Eh... to each his own! If “safety wire” makes you feel good, then go for it... As I stayed in my other post, my zip ties were on there for three years and didn’t suffer any brittleness. That’s my story, and I’m sticking with ‘em
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Finally got around applying a more permanent fix for the shift cables, tie wraps have been holding ok but I am going to another DE next week and wanted something a bit more robust.

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I’m a big fan of safety wire. Nicely done!
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Originally Posted by alpine003
Different approach to shortening your shifts from the transmission side instead. B&M and RUF had these units. Didn't do so well in terms of sales so you could find one for practically a steal(~25 at one point).
Anymore info on this? Part numbers?
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Originally Posted by shft22
Finally got around applying a more permanent fix for the shift cables, tie wraps have been holding ok but I am going to another DE next week and wanted something a bit more robust.

Great solution! Did you remove bracket to drill holes. Any suggestions on spec for wire? Thanks
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Originally Posted by JM17
Great solution! Did you remove bracket to drill holes. Any suggestions on spec for wire? Thanks
I’ve done the same to mine.
No need to remove to drill the bracket.
I use .032 Aircraft safety wire.


These make it easier to install properly:


https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-s...QaAsFvEALw_wcB




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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
I’ve done the same to mine.
No need to remove to drill the bracket.
I use .032 Aircraft safety wire.


These make it easier to install properly:


https://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-s...QaAsFvEALw_wcB
Thank you so much for the info. I am still not sure how these are drilled. When I have 986 on jackstands, I can barely maneuver my hand around to get to the clips. A little more detail and photos will help this slow learner. I really appreciate any help you can provide.



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