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Old 07-28-2018, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
2004 AE - My Indy added zip ties a couple of months ago - not sure why but just found out when local dealer brought them to my attention as if it were a disaster waiting to happen. What is the issue if the zip ties fail? Thanks.
On mine, I could not engage Reverse, 1st, 3rd, 5th. This left me with just 2nd, 4th, 6th. This happened miles from home, but I still made it back by avoiding stopping where possible, and slipping the clutch in 2nd gear a bit to get going where necessary. I did have to push the car back out of my parking space :-)
Zip ties fixed the issue when I got home and the car jacked up, must say that the shift feel has vastly improved.Oh yeah, the onset of the problem for me was a track day. I think the G forces can encourage the cable to move out from the bracket.
Old 07-28-2018, 09:49 PM
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Zip ties work fine. Safety wires do the same job, but do not degrade with UV, so last longer.
Old 10-28-2018, 09:52 PM
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Was at Sebring a few weeks ago on a DE, on the second session getting out of the hair pin, the car wouldn't get out of 3rd and i had no feeling on the shift.

Limped back to the pits to discover both cables had come off the bracket. Zip tied them in place and finished the day. I will drill the bracket and safety wire them in place, I like that better than zip ties that can brake.
Old 10-31-2018, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shft22
Was at Sebring a few weeks ago on a DE, on the second session getting out of the hair pin, the car wouldn't get out of 3rd and i had no feeling on the shift.

Limped back to the pits to discover both cables had come off the bracket. Zip tied them in place and finished the day. I will drill the bracket and safety wire them in place, I like that better than zip ties that can brake.
^the chances of them breaking on their own are pretty slim... For track use I could see them breaking if you hit some debris on the track after an accident (I think for track use wiring them may be required). When I changed my cable out to the Numeric cables, mine had been zip tied for about three years...I cut them and put new ones on when I was done...
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I think it is hard to argue that zip ties are more durable than a safety wire.

A quick google search on "zip tie brittle" will lead you to many manufacturer and distributor sites that will say that non-metallic zip ties get brittle over time, especially in temperature extremes and very low humidity. Apparently, most are made of Nylon 6/6 material which is susceptible to this.

That shouldn't stop anyone from using zip ties, but for my time/effort/money, I'll stick with safety wire.
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I'm a fan of safety wire, especially near heat or when subjected to vibration.
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I used the heavy gauge green coated ground wire like used on homes. Seems to be plenty strong for the long haul.
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Originally Posted by cds72911
I think it is hard to argue that zip ties are more durable than a safety wire.

A quick google search on "zip tie brittle" will lead you to many manufacturer and distributor sites that will say that non-metallic zip ties get brittle over time, especially in temperature extremes and very low humidity. Apparently, most are made of Nylon 6/6 material which is susceptible to this.

That shouldn't stop anyone from using zip ties, but for my time/effort/money, I'll stick with safety wire.
Eh... to each his own! If “safety wire” makes you feel good, then go for it... As I stayed in my other post, my zip ties were on there for three years and didn’t suffer any brittleness. That’s my story, and I’m sticking with ‘em
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Finally got around applying a more permanent fix for the shift cables, tie wraps have been holding ok but I am going to another DE next week and wanted something a bit more robust.

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I’m a big fan of safety wire. Nicely done!
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Originally Posted by alpine003
Different approach to shortening your shifts from the transmission side instead. B&M and RUF had these units. Didn't do so well in terms of sales so you could find one for practically a steal(~25 at one point).
Anymore info on this? Part numbers?



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