Next Handling Upgrade?
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From: Where the Smokies meet the Blue Ridge mountains
IMO, the front GT3 sways with short drop links are not the optimal solution for the 996. You can achieve better results (including loaded suspension geometry) with (1) HR front bar and stock links, (2) front GT3 wheel carriers and GT3 sway bars, or 93) the new Tarett sway mounts with GT3 sway bars.
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My last DE was in full wet conditions and I felt like the car was extremely neutral - had plenty of control over balance using only the throttle. I don't think I'd be comfortable with any more oversteer than I currently have dialed in...
Okay, so last question is what will sway bars do for me if balance is good already? Crisper turn-in and flatter through the corners, hence slightly more traction -> slightly higher speeds? Again - wondering how much of an improvement I should expect for the $1k or so investment.
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Okay, so last question is what will sway bars do for me if balance is good already? Crisper turn-in and flatter through the corners, hence slightly more traction -> slightly higher speeds? Again - wondering how much of an improvement I should expect for the $1k or so investment.
If your handling is already good, you don't necessarily need better sway bars. However, if you are running stock or ROW M030 sways, they are typically considered inadequate for heavy track use. The "bigger" bars are substantially stiffer, and mesh quite nicely with PSS9 (or other) suspensions. I would be very surprised if you upgraded sway bars (from stock or ROW M030) and did not notice a marked improvement.
Keep in mind, the sways are just one component in a complex system that needs to be tuned properly.
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From: Where the Smokies meet the Blue Ridge mountains
Link to Tarett Front Swaybar Kit
Looks like $1,100 for this setup vs. about $600+ for the H&Rs, but seems like it's money well spent to get set up right.
I'll also ask them about the prospect of the blade sways...
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Ahh - I see now that I read the description on their website... will call them before making the move - seems like a great solution - and again, if I find them a little harsh on my local roads, then I can always soften them up.
Link to Tarett Front Swaybar Kit
Looks like $1,100 for this setup vs. about $600+ for the H&Rs, but seems like it's money well spent to get set up right.
I'll also ask them about the prospect of the blade sways...
Link to Tarett Front Swaybar Kit
Looks like $1,100 for this setup vs. about $600+ for the H&Rs, but seems like it's money well spent to get set up right.
I'll also ask them about the prospect of the blade sways...
Also, you shouldn't notice much difference in harshness due to sway bars. Stiffer springs and tight bump is the primary culprit.
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From: Where the Smokies meet the Blue Ridge mountains
Suncoast might be cheaper on the parts, even Tarett links: http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/me...=996Suspension
Also, you shouldn't notice much difference in harshness due to sway bars. Stiffer springs and tight bump is the primary culprit.
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Also, you shouldn't notice much difference in harshness due to sway bars. Stiffer springs and tight bump is the primary culprit.
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I've heard awesome things about Tarett by the way, great customer service, awesome products, and they stand behind everything 100%.
Once I have them installed in a few weeks, I'll plan to repost. But I will say, that I've been extremely pleased with my upgrade path so far, the PSS9s were a sweet deal and the car looks and actually rides better than with the stock US suspension... I have a DE scheduled at CMP mid-May, so I can also post impressions after that event.
Cheers....
Last edited by eDoug; Apr 20, 2009 at 05:43 PM.
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pdobbs, I hope it`s ok to borrow your thread! I have same question for you guys.
Curren setup:
KW V3 Coilovers
H&R ARB`s
GT3 front lower control arms for camber
MPSC`s
Light weight wheels
GT2 Brakes
Performance alignment
So what do you recomend for the next upgrades? I was considering rear dog bones, bumpsteer kit (front & rear) and monoball top mounts. Some thing else? Are there any use for monoball top mounts when I already have enough negative camber (F -2.6 & R-2.3)?
Thanks!
Curren setup:
KW V3 Coilovers
H&R ARB`s
GT3 front lower control arms for camber
MPSC`s
Light weight wheels
GT2 Brakes
Performance alignment
So what do you recomend for the next upgrades? I was considering rear dog bones, bumpsteer kit (front & rear) and monoball top mounts. Some thing else? Are there any use for monoball top mounts when I already have enough negative camber (F -2.6 & R-2.3)?
Thanks!
