What will reduce understeer
02-18-2009, 10:54 PM
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What will reduce understeer
Since the search is not working...... what can be done to reduce understeer ? I am not looking to make big changes, just looking to make the car more neutral.
02-18-2009, 11:09 PM
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lots of stuff:
Higher front tire pressure
Lower rear tire pressure
Larger front tire section
Smaller rear tire section
More negative front camber
More positive rear camber
Softer front springs
Stiffer rear springs
Thinner (weaker) front sway bar
Thicker (stronger) rear sway bar
Weight distribuation more rearward
Higher front tire pressure
Lower rear tire pressure
Larger front tire section
Smaller rear tire section
More negative front camber
More positive rear camber
Softer front springs
Stiffer rear springs
Thinner (weaker) front sway bar
Thicker (stronger) rear sway bar
Weight distribuation more rearward
02-18-2009, 11:18 PM
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02-19-2009, 12:00 AM
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(though I admit I have no experience or real knowledge)
those sound like fixes for "oversteer"
How can I be so wrong?
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02-19-2009, 08:49 AM
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What's already done to the car? Adjusting your driving style can help out alot too.
Trailbrake helps alot.
Bigger rear bar is a goos start and it's cheap however it's a band-aid fix as you generally want to fix the end that's not working well (front) first but that's more money to fix.
Trailbrake helps alot.
Bigger rear bar is a goos start and it's cheap however it's a band-aid fix as you generally want to fix the end that's not working well (front) first but that's more money to fix.
02-19-2009, 10:58 AM
#11
this sh**... can be debatable, but increasing oversteer (more rear traction), reduces understeer... no?
02-19-2009, 11:05 AM
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The two easiest ways (in real time) I get rid of understeer is trailbraking and trailing throttle oversteer with trailbraking being the preferred method (increased cornering speed) and the later being the one when I have screwed up the corner.
Last edited by LVDell; 02-19-2009 at 12:16 PM. Reason: (in real time)
02-19-2009, 11:15 AM
#13
technically yes (sometimes).....but increasing rear grip doesn't necessarily reduce understeer. You can still push like a dump truck. You are looking for more FRONT grip which isn't a 1 to 1 relationship by increasing REAR grip. You could also illustrate that reducing REAR grip would increase FRONT grip thereby reducing understeer.
The two easiest ways I get rid of understeer is trailbraking and trailing throttle oversteer with trailbraking being the preferred method (increased cornering speed) and the later being the one when I have screwed up the corner.
The two easiest ways I get rid of understeer is trailbraking and trailing throttle oversteer with trailbraking being the preferred method (increased cornering speed) and the later being the one when I have screwed up the corner.
well since you put it that way... it makes sense.... thanks for the clarification. This always spins my head... especially in the early morn.
02-19-2009, 11:17 AM
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welcome 
FYI....it helps that I drink most of my coffee intake for the day well before most are even up (comes with having a one year old) and I spend a considerable amount of time on track so feeling these characteristics continually sure helps speak from real world experience.
FYI....it helps that I drink most of my coffee intake for the day well before most are even up (comes with having a one year old) and I spend a considerable amount of time on track so feeling these characteristics continually sure helps speak from real world experience.
