Need Help - Setting Priority - 996 Purchase
#16
Race Director
I would suggest you drive whatever Porsche you are interested in, strike your best deal now, purchase the car and start enjoying the experience(good or bad). You can talk forever about mileage, MY etc. but you'll be no further along than you are now. It's easy to spend too much time over anticipating buying a Porsche...just do it and you'll most likely be glad you did.GL
#17
Parts Specialist
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That's my stand too... dont over think it...you have 2 years of that, well over 100 posts on this board and who know how many hours on others. Its a car, go find one you like and buy it. If it works out to be a lemon, sell it, and get another one.
That said I will first also say " no appology needed"
and second I will answer the 2 year old question. Model year 02-05 is better then 99-01. Dont worry out miles that are 10k different. Worry if miles are 60k differant in either dirrection. IMO LOW miles is as bad as HIGH miles. Find something in the middle of the range. Check it out, buy it and post your pictures...
Prices could drop for the rest of time and someday maybe these will be FREE, but you will be too old to enjoy it and all that time thinking about owning one will have been for not.
My .02
That said I will first also say " no appology needed"
and second I will answer the 2 year old question. Model year 02-05 is better then 99-01. Dont worry out miles that are 10k different. Worry if miles are 60k differant in either dirrection. IMO LOW miles is as bad as HIGH miles. Find something in the middle of the range. Check it out, buy it and post your pictures...
Prices could drop for the rest of time and someday maybe these will be FREE, but you will be too old to enjoy it and all that time thinking about owning one will have been for not.
My .02
#20
Three Wheelin'
My 2 cents....clearly, others will disagree.
But cars don't do as well with a lot of storage (I come from OH, so I sympathize with the 8 billion tons of salt poured on the roads). The TT has more components and more complicated components...which would imply to me, that there are more things that would be unhappy with long periods of sitting (e.g., condensation, irregular lubrication, more low-oil-pressure startups after sitting).
If you were going to regularly use the car in winter, there could be some argument for the all wheel drive. But except for the simple car-to-car variation, the simpler the car, the less there is to go wrong with it.
As others have said, drive them and see what you like. But I have been well-served over the years by buying the simplest car configuration that serves my needs. I certainly think I'd like a TT. I keep looking at them & their prices. But, I also think that the number of times a TT would actually make a tangible difference in my driving could probably be counted on one hand unless I were tracking it regularly. Would I probably enjoy it, yep. But is the entertainment worth the extra dollars? That's a personal question.
So, (realizing my own biases & limited info from you), if you're going to store it a lot & if your search has already been interrupted by life events several times (including financial ones), go with a C2. The lower acquisition price does not mean that the quality is lower. Could the TT have higher entertainment & status value? Yep. Just decide what you actually want to spend your money on.
But cars don't do as well with a lot of storage (I come from OH, so I sympathize with the 8 billion tons of salt poured on the roads). The TT has more components and more complicated components...which would imply to me, that there are more things that would be unhappy with long periods of sitting (e.g., condensation, irregular lubrication, more low-oil-pressure startups after sitting).
If you were going to regularly use the car in winter, there could be some argument for the all wheel drive. But except for the simple car-to-car variation, the simpler the car, the less there is to go wrong with it.
As others have said, drive them and see what you like. But I have been well-served over the years by buying the simplest car configuration that serves my needs. I certainly think I'd like a TT. I keep looking at them & their prices. But, I also think that the number of times a TT would actually make a tangible difference in my driving could probably be counted on one hand unless I were tracking it regularly. Would I probably enjoy it, yep. But is the entertainment worth the extra dollars? That's a personal question.
So, (realizing my own biases & limited info from you), if you're going to store it a lot & if your search has already been interrupted by life events several times (including financial ones), go with a C2. The lower acquisition price does not mean that the quality is lower. Could the TT have higher entertainment & status value? Yep. Just decide what you actually want to spend your money on.
#21
Three Wheelin'
Prices for 996s have hit the bottom. You are not going to find the price going down anymore. Generally speaking, the lowest price range will be $18K -21K for high mileage (over 100K) (MY 1999-2000). $22-24K for nice examples with maybe 45-99K miles. If you wait 6-8 months will you find one for $15K ? No.
There are of course exceptions to all generalizations, but I've followed pricing very closely. The prices have bottomed out, buy now! Turbos can be had for $39K - 45K. There is a Turbo on Ebay right now with 15K original miles for $41K buy it now (I think), now that's a good deal.
What should be given a higher priority? Age or mileage? (If I had to chose, mileage) Should I ignore the MY and look more a mileage? (IMO yes.) In the big picture, does a mileage difference of 10k or 20k really make a difference? (No. Maintenance history is more important) Should 1 or 2 years difference in production be taken into consideration? (Really depends on the years). You should seek out EVO magazine’s “Porsche Supercars” recent publication, really, really good.
There are of course exceptions to all generalizations, but I've followed pricing very closely. The prices have bottomed out, buy now! Turbos can be had for $39K - 45K. There is a Turbo on Ebay right now with 15K original miles for $41K buy it now (I think), now that's a good deal.
What should be given a higher priority? Age or mileage? (If I had to chose, mileage) Should I ignore the MY and look more a mileage? (IMO yes.) In the big picture, does a mileage difference of 10k or 20k really make a difference? (No. Maintenance history is more important) Should 1 or 2 years difference in production be taken into consideration? (Really depends on the years). You should seek out EVO magazine’s “Porsche Supercars” recent publication, really, really good.
#22
Ironman 140.6
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Buy the newest car you can comfortably afford. If you can get a CPO (Certified Pre Owned) from a dealer, even better because it gives you 2 years/50,000 miles of coverage if the initial factory warranty has expired. You could also get an after market warranty. There are a ton of good used 996 cars out there.
Turbo has the power, but some lag sue to spooling up the turbo. It also has AWD, which some like and others don't because of the heaver steering feel. C2 is RWD and a lighter car with 320 HP.
I would suggest you drive at least one of each (TT & C2) to find the one that fits you best. Then do a search on you color and options. Find a clean one and get a PPI (pre purchase inspection) on it before you buy it. Then drive it like you stole it!!!!
Simple, huh??
Turbo has the power, but some lag sue to spooling up the turbo. It also has AWD, which some like and others don't because of the heaver steering feel. C2 is RWD and a lighter car with 320 HP.
I would suggest you drive at least one of each (TT & C2) to find the one that fits you best. Then do a search on you color and options. Find a clean one and get a PPI (pre purchase inspection) on it before you buy it. Then drive it like you stole it!!!!
Simple, huh??
#24
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I would choose a TT.
As the markets have continued to change (and you are not going to use the car a lot), what do you come up with using a 997 lease?
Regards,
As the markets have continued to change (and you are not going to use the car a lot), what do you come up with using a 997 lease?
Regards,
#26
I would suggest you drive whatever Porsche you are interested in, strike your best deal now, purchase the car and start enjoying the experience(good or bad). You can talk forever about mileage, MY etc. but you'll be no further along than you are now. It's easy to spend too much time over anticipating buying a Porsche...just do it and you'll most likely be glad you did.GL
Others here can attest to the fact that I publicly obsess about my purchase choices -- be it coupe or cab, tool sets, etc. I am definitely happy to have just bought a P-car and to be driving it all the time.
#28
Three Wheelin'
I was wrong. This economy has gone nuts and you just might get a 996 for 15K. Here's one for 14K !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...5355&viewitem=
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...5355&viewitem=
#29
No offense intended to the OP but I also find threads like this ridiculous.
"What should I buy? TT or C2? how many miles do I want?" blah blah.
Only you know what car is right for you. Probably the one you like best.
There are many cars for sale. It is a buyers market. If one really wants to buy, just find what you are looking for and if it fits then make an offer. You will likely get it at your price, subject to PPI. It is much easier being in your shoes as a prospective buyer than a seller. If you are that worried about declining value then dont buy one; problem solved.
If you have specific questions no doubt you will get accurate and helpful info here. If you ask general questions like "what should I like? what should I feel? what can I afford? what should I do? etc" then expect a bit of criticism.
My .02 only.
Cheers.
"What should I buy? TT or C2? how many miles do I want?" blah blah.
Only you know what car is right for you. Probably the one you like best.
There are many cars for sale. It is a buyers market. If one really wants to buy, just find what you are looking for and if it fits then make an offer. You will likely get it at your price, subject to PPI. It is much easier being in your shoes as a prospective buyer than a seller. If you are that worried about declining value then dont buy one; problem solved.
If you have specific questions no doubt you will get accurate and helpful info here. If you ask general questions like "what should I like? what should I feel? what can I afford? what should I do? etc" then expect a bit of criticism.
My .02 only.
Cheers.
#30
Ironman 140.6
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I was wrong. This economy has gone nuts and you just might get a 996 for 15K. Here's one for 14K !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...5355&viewitem=
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...5355&viewitem=