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Old 01-02-2009, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gota911
Wayne, he said the 704 was a clutch swithc.... Nicolaas' car is a Tip. Maybe the Tip shifter switch is bad or acting up.

If you ask me, the car is tired of being a Tip and wants a sex change operation so it can be a MANual!
Nice Tim! It didn't even dawn on me until you brought that up.....

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Nice dig!

I'd forgotten that the car was a tip
Me too.....hehe
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Originally Posted by Tippy
It is a long process and takes more money than I care to spend at the moment. But, I split the cases during Christmas and was surprised at how good the internals looked - I should of just put new valves in and carried on.

It will be a long time before I get back on the road.......the A6 DD is just so lame.....bluah.....but it has a kick@$$ Bose system so I manage.....<sigh>
Glad to hear that it's not looking as bad as you feared. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get it up and running this year.
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Sure that reader isn't showing P0104?
Old 01-02-2009, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Wellardmac
Glad to hear that it's not looking as bad as you feared. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get it up and running this year.
Me too.....
Old 01-02-2009, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tippy
It is a long process and takes more money than I care to spend at the moment. But, I split the cases during Christmas and was surprised at how good the internals looked - I should of just put new valves in and carried on.

It will be a long time before I get back on the road.......the A6 DD is just so lame.....bluah.....but it has a kick@$$ Bose system so I manage.....<sigh>
If you think the A6 is lame..... try an Accord! If an Accord was your DD, you would have already repaired your Porsche engine by now..... believe me!

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Old 01-02-2009, 11:56 PM
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Try resetting the CEL again - I suspect you didn't clear it last time around - hence it's still on even though the code is no longer there
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Originally Posted by Tippy
.......the A6 DD is just so lame.....bluah.....but it has a kick@$$ Bose system so I manage.....<sigh>
This one is not too shabby....



Tim, is this your Accord????

Old 01-03-2009, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by salayc
Sure that reader isn't showing P0104?
nope it was 0704 I guess I have to spend money to find out what is wrong with my driveway queen...that is what you get when you don't drive it and don't put it in the garage....my poor former pride!

my new pride and joy is going to get a sister in a couple of weeks..... which will make my P-car no. ???
ah well it has been fun for about 3 years!

luckily gas prices went WAY down and my pimp mobile (escalade) no only cost me about 35 bucks to fill up (with the cheapest 87 fuel I can find!!)
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Originally Posted by Ray S
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Tim, is this your Accord????

I only wish mine looked that sporty!
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Originally Posted by Ray S
This one is not too shabby....



Tim, is this your Accord????


Nah, that's not Tim's car - I don't see and ground-effects :d
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If you're up in LA and don't want to travel - I'd point you to your nearest Harbor Freight store to pick up one of these code readers:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94217
Are there any special cables required for this code reader to adapt to a 99 C2? Where on the car do you physically hook it up? I "think" i recall seeing a connector at the fuse panel, but not in front of the car at the moment.

On mine, I was driving home last night, stopped on an on-ramp metering deal with traffic when the car started to idle really rough. With all of the traffic, I couldn't hear if it was making any obvious noises. About a mionuite or so later, the check engine light came on. I was in pretty solid traffic, but could tell the engine was running "off." No overheating, oil pressure was normal. Once it thinned out a bit and I got up to speed, the engine would acclerate, but felt lower onpower, and had a lot of shuddering on acceleration. Couldn't see anything obvious coming out of the tailpipes in the rear view, but it was dark. Off acceleration, i.e. no load cruising or decel was fine, smooth, couldn't feel any vibration at all. Once home, I listened to the engine idle for a moment, again dark so I couldn't see much. Sounded like a slight rattle, but not sure if that was due to the engine roughness causing something else to wiggle/vibrate, or the engine itself. Frustrated, I shut it off and drove the other vehicle in today (which is no fun at all....). Car has 92k miles on it. Sound familiar?

Mark
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Originally Posted by Mean 69
Are there any special cables required for this code reader to adapt to a 99 C2? Where on the car do you physically hook it up? I "think" i recall seeing a connector at the fuse panel, but not in front of the car at the moment.

On mine, I was driving home last night, stopped on an on-ramp metering deal with traffic when the car started to idle really rough. With all of the traffic, I couldn't hear if it was making any obvious noises. About a mionuite or so later, the check engine light came on. I was in pretty solid traffic, but could tell the engine was running "off." No overheating, oil pressure was normal. Once it thinned out a bit and I got up to speed, the engine would acclerate, but felt lower onpower, and had a lot of shuddering on acceleration. Couldn't see anything obvious coming out of the tailpipes in the rear view, but it was dark. Off acceleration, i.e. no load cruising or decel was fine, smooth, couldn't feel any vibration at all. Once home, I listened to the engine idle for a moment, again dark so I couldn't see much. Sounded like a slight rattle, but not sure if that was due to the engine roughness causing something else to wiggle/vibrate, or the engine itself. Frustrated, I shut it off and drove the other vehicle in today (which is no fun at all....). Car has 92k miles on it. Sound familiar?

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There is an interface cable that comes with the code reader - it fits an industry standard OBD port on the 996, which is located below the steering column (again an industry standard location in the car)

Here's a shot of the same port on a 987



No special cable required for a 99 - my wife's 986 is a 99 and it works just fine.

Read the codes with the ignition ON but with the engine not running - and then we'll have an idea of what's up.
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I use the following code list for diagnosis:

CEL Codes - Porsche

P0101 Mass Air Flow Sensor - Signal Implausible
P0102 Mass Air Flow Sensor - Below Lower Limit
P0103 Mass Air Flow Sensor - Above Upper Limit
P0112 Intake Air Temperature Sensor - Below Lower Limit
P0113 Intake Air Temperature Sensor - Above Upper Limit
P0115 Engine Temperature Sensor - Signal Implausible
P0117 Engine Temperature Sensor - Below Lower Limit
P0118 Engine Temperature Sensor - Above Upper Limit
P0122 Throttle Position Sensor - Below Lower Limit
P0123 Throttle Position Sensor - Above Upper Limit
P0130 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Intercore Short Circuit or Limited
P0131 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Signal Wire Short Circuit to
P0132 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Short Circuit to B+
P0133 Aging of Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Below Lower Limit
P0134 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Interruption of Signal
P0136 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1-3) - Intercore Short Circuit
P0137 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Signal Wire Short Circuit to Ground or Incorrect
P0138 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Short Circuit to B+
P0139 Aging of Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3)
P0140 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (cylinders 1 - 3) - Interruption of Signal
P0150 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Intercore Short Circuit or Limited
P0151 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Signal Wire Short Circuit to
P0152 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Short Circuit to B+
P0153 Aging of Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Below Lower Limit
P0154 Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Interruption of Signal
P0156 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Intercore Short Circuit
P0157 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Signal Wire Short Circuit to Ground or In -
P0158 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 61 - Short Circuit to B+
P0159 Aging of Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6)
P0160 Oxygen Sensor After Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Interruption of Signal
P0197 Oil Temperature Sensor - Short Circuit to Ground
P0198 Oil Temperature Sensor - Short Circuit to B+
P0300 Misfire Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0301 Misfire, Cylinder 1, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0302 Misfire, Cylinder 2, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0303 Misfire, Cylinder 3, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0304 Misfire, Cylinder 4, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0305 Misfire, Cylinder 5, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0306 Misfire, Cylinder 6, Damaging to Catalytic Converter
P0336 Crankshaft Position Sensor - Not in Specified Range
P0341 Camshaft Position Sensor 1 - Signal Implausible, Short to Ground, Short to B+
P0410 Secondary Air Injection System - Signal Implausible (Cylinders 1 - 3)
P0420 Catalytic Converter Conversion Too Low (Cylinders 1 - 3)
P0430 Catalytic Converter Conversion Too Low (Cylinders 4 - 6)
P0440 Fuel Tank Ventilation System - Above Limit
P0441 Fuel Tank Ventilation System - Above Limit
P0442 Fuel Tank Ventilation System (Micro-leak) - Below Lower Limit
P0444 EVAP Canister Purge Valve - Open Circuit
P0445 EVAP Canister Purge Valve - Short to B+/Short to Ground
P0446 EVAP Canister Shutoff Valve (Function) - Below Lower Limit
P0447 EVAP Canister Shutoff Valve (Output Stage) - Open Circuit
P0448 EVAP Canister Shutoff Valve (Output Stage) - Short to B+/Short to Ground
P0450 Tank Pressure Sensor - Signal Implausible
P0452 Tank Pressure Sensor - Short to Ground
P0453 Tank Pressure Sensor - Short to B+
P0455 Fuel Tank Ventilation System (Major Leak) - Below Lower Limit
P0501 Vehicle Speed - Not in Specified Range
P0506 Idle Air Control - Idle Speed Too Low
P0507 Idle Air Control - Idle Speed Too High
P0600 CAN Time-out - Signal Implausible
P0603 ECM Faulty
P0604 ECM Faulty
P0605 ECM Faulty
P1102 Oxygen Sensor Heating 1 Ahead of Catalytic Converter - Above Upper Limit
P1105 Oxygen Sensor Heating 1 After Catalytic Converter - Above Upper Limit
P1107 Oxygen Sensor Heating 2 Ahead of Catalytic Converter - Above Upper
P1110 Oxygen Sensor Heating 2 After Catalytic Converter - Above Upper Limit
P1115 Oxygen Sensor Heating 1 After Catalytic Converter - Above Upper Limit
P1117 Oxygen Sensor Heating 1 After Catalytic Converter - Below Lower Limit
P1119 Oxygen Sensor Heating 2 Ahead of Catalytic Converter - Below Lower Limit
P1121 Oxygen Sensor Heating 2 After Catalytic Converter - Below Lower Limit
P1123 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 1 (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Lean Threshold
P1124 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 1 (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Rich Threshold
P1125 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 1 (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Lean Threshold
P1126 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 1 (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Rich Threshold
P1127 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 2 (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Lean Threshold
P1128 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 2 (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Rich Threshold
P1129 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 2 (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Lean Threshold
P1130 Oxygen Sensing Adaptation Area 2 (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Rich Threshold
P1140 Load Sensing - Signal Implausible
P1157 Engine Compartment Temperature Sensor - Short Circuit to Ground
P1158 Engine Compartment Temperature Sensor - Short Circuit to B+
P1213 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 1 - Short to B+
P1214 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 2 - Short to B+
P1215 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 3 - Short to B+
P1216 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 4 - Short to B+
P1217 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 5 - Short to B+
P1218 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 6 - Short to B+
P1225 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 1 - Short to Ground
P1226 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 2 - Short to Ground
P1227 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 3 - Short to Ground
P1228 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 4 - Short to Ground
P1229 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 5 - Short to Ground
P1230 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 6 - Short to Ground
P1237 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 1 - Open Circuit
P1238 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 2 - Open Circuit
P1239 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 3 - Open Circuit
P1240 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 4 - Open Circuit
P1241 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 5 - Open Circuit
P1242 Fuel Injector, Cylinder 6 - Open Circuit
P1265 Airbag Signal - Signal Implausible
P1275 Aging of Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 1 - 3) - Below Lower Limit
P1276 Aging of Oxygen Sensor Ahead of Catalytic Converter (Cylinders 4 - 6) - Below Lower Limit
P1313 Misfire, Cylinder 1, Emission Relevant
P1314 Misfire, Cylinder 2, Emission Relevant
P1315 Misfire, Cylinder 3, Emission Relevant
P1316 Misfire, Cylinder 4, Emission Relevant
P1317 Misfire, Cylinder 5, Emission Relevant
P1318 Misfire, Cylinder 6, Emission Relevant
P1319 Misfire, Emission Relevant
P1324 Timing Chain out of Position, Bank 2 - Below (or Above) Lower Limit
P1340 Timing Chain out of Position, Bank 1 - Below (or Above) Lower Limit
P1384 Knock Sensor 1 - Signal Implausible
P1385 Knock Sensor 2 - Signal Implausible
P1386 Knock Control Test Pulse - Signal Implausible
P1397 Camshaft Position Sensor 2 - Signal Implausible, Short to Ground, Short to B+
P1411 Secondary Air Injection System - Signal Implausible (Cylinders 4 - 6)
P1455 A/C Compressor Control - Open Circuit
P1456 A/C Compressor Control - Above Upper Limit
P1457 A/C Compressor Control - Below Lower Limit
P1501 Fuel Pump Relay Output Stage - Short Circuit to Ground
P1502 Fuel Pump Relay Output Stage - Short Circuit to B+
P1510 Idle Air Control Valve Opening Coil - Above Upper Limit
P1512 Intake Manifold Switchover 1 (Output Stage) - Short to B+
P1513 Idle Air Control Valve Opening Coil - Below Lower Limit
P1514 Idle Air Control Valve Opening Coil - Open Circuit
P1515 Intake Manifold Switchover 1 (Output Stage) - Short to Ground
P1516 Intake Manifold Switchover 1 (Output Stage) - Open Circuit
P1524 Camshaft Adjustment, Bank 2
P1530 Camshaft Adjustment, Bank 1
P1531 Camshaft Adjustment, Bank 1
P1539 Camshaft Adjustment, Bank 2
P1541 Fuel Pump Relay Output Stage - Open Circuit
P1551 Idle Air Control Valve Closing Coil - Open Circuit
P1552 Idle Air Control Valve Closing Coil - Below Lower Limit
P1553 Idle Air Control Valve Closing Coil - Above Upper Limit
P1570 Immobilizer - Implausible Operating Range
P1571 Immobilizer - Open Circuit / No Signal
P1585 Misfire with Empty Fuel Tank
P1600 Voltage Supply - Signal Implausible (or Below Lower Limit)
P1601 Voltage Supply - Above Upper Limit
P1602 Voltage Supply - Open Circuit
P1640 ECM Faulty
P1671 Engine Compartment Purge Fan Output Stage - Open Circuit (or Short Circuit to Ground or Short Circuit to B+)
P1673 Fan Output Stage - Open Circuit (or Short Circuit to Ground or Short Circuit to B+)
P1689 ECM Faulty
P1691 Check Engine Malfunction Indication Light (MIL) - Open Circuit
P1692 Check Engine Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) - short Circuit to Ground
P1693 Check Engine Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) - Short Circuit to B+
P1782 Engine Engagement / Nominal Engine Torque - Short Circuit to Ground
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Originally Posted by gota911
If you think the A6 is lame..... try an Accord! If an Accord was your DD, you would have already repaired your Porsche engine by now..... believe me!
Muhahaha

Originally Posted by Ray S
This one is not too shabby....
Ray, subtract 10 years and you got my A6........not very sporty or nice looking. But, it has cool blue leather and a decent Bose system

Originally Posted by Wellardmac
Nah, that's not Tim's car - I don't see and ground-effects :d
Ohhhh, that was below the belt....
Old 01-10-2009, 03:43 PM
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The power of the internet, paired with the gracious sharing of knowledge is truly one of the best things we have in our possession today. Thank you, folks, for pointing me in the right direction. Bought a very well equipped OBDII reader yesterday from Autozone, has more capability than I'll probably ever need, but I am notorious for buying things twice (buy the cheap thing first, then realize I want the better one and end up paying twice for the same thing. Character flaw.).

Active code P0305 Cylinder 5 Misfire
Pending Code P1317 Cylinder 5 Misfire

No other codes. Coil pack? Car had new plugs installed 5k miles ago. Came on somewhat abruptly so I'd guess a component failure rather than a natural "wear" of a part?

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