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Old 12-17-2008, 09:37 AM
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Ed - the seats look better than I thought. I love the look of the savanna beige on my car, but it doesn't wear worth a ****...
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:06 AM
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These appear to be replica gt3 seats, not OEM/Recaro (please correct me if i'm wrong). I looked at a set myself, and the price is tempting but you get what you pay for. The replica seats are not crash tested, not FIA approved, etc. I would not run them in any car of mine.

Also do a search about fixed back seats and roll bars. Most agree you should run Fixed back seats with a rollbar. Again, the choice is yours but its your own safety.
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fissionx
These appear to be replica gt3 seats, not OEM/Recaro (please correct me if i'm wrong). I looked at a set myself, and the price is tempting but you get what you pay for. The replica seats are not crash tested, not FIA approved, etc. I would not run them in any car of mine.

Also do a search about fixed back seats and roll bars. Most agree you should run Fixed back seats with a rollbar. Again, the choice is yours but its your own safety.
Good info, I am not sure of the MFG. Thanks
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Old 12-17-2008, 06:25 PM
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I think the seats look awesome. Your butt dyno will show that they add at least 25 hp!
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Old 12-17-2008, 06:48 PM
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I'm black on the inside too and would be interested....where'd you pick them up? they look great IMO
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By February, I might be going through a similar experience. Scary.

Well, if you do sell them, maybe we can talk about barter - aardvark pelts, or fossilized bear dung...something like that.

I must be tired. I'm saying some weird crap.

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Old 12-17-2008, 11:04 PM
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Damn, George. Why did you show my hand? OK - I'm offering up the gift certificates too. Whatever it takes!

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Old 12-18-2008, 12:57 AM
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I will say this once more again and leave it at that because I don't think this has the attention it's deserves. Seats are one of the most important safety devices in the car. They are designed to work as a system. Fixed back seats become more dangerous in the event of a roll-over and thus dictate the use of a rollbar. Not only this, but the replica seats will have inferior build and quality. The seats undergo no research/design/testing for impacts, they are simply made resemble the finished product, GT3 seats made by recaro.

here's a boxster crash test to watch and think about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K4OvtmR7bo

That being said, they certainly look alright, and will keep you in place. Your safety is compromised to something below that of stock seats, as long as you are okay with that. I do track events, scuba dive, certainly take risks I think are worth the enjoyment i get back, it's each person's call to make.
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Originally Posted by Fissionx
They are designed to work as a system. Fixed back seats become more dangerous in the event of a roll-over and thus dictate the use of a rollbar. Not only this, but the replica seats will have inferior build and quality.

That being said, they certainly look alright, and will keep you in place. Your safety is compromised to something below that of stock seats, as long as you are okay with that.
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Agreed and thanks for saving me the time on typing this on my initial post.

Either way whatever stay safe man.
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:47 AM
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I'm as happy as a clam with my Savannah GT3 seat (I just have one - on the driver's side). A very good upgrade, IMHO.
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Fissionx
Fixed back seats become more dangerous in the event of a roll-over and thus dictate the use of a rollbar.
Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I understand why...
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:24 AM
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Because fixed back seats are not designed to collapse or divert the occupant downward in the event of a roll over. Therefore, increasing your risk that your spine/scull being crushed or disconnected. Non fixed back seats are designed (at least with BMW's to collapse and divert the passenger down into the footwell) to do that. Hense, it is highly recommended that when installing fixed back seats, that a roll bar or cage accompany the installation and is the conventional wisdom of pretty much every track guy I've talked to when the subject came up.

Luckily I'm not fast enough yet to really need to worry about that yet.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LJpete
Because fixed back seats are not designed to collapse or divert the occupant downward in the event of a roll over. Therefore, increasing your risk that your spine/scull being crushed or disconnected. Non fixed back seats are designed (at least with BMW's to collapse and divert the passenger down into the footwell) to do that. Hense, it is highly recommended that when installing fixed back seats, that a roll bar or cage accompany the installation and is the conventional wisdom of pretty much every track guy I've talked to when the subject came up.

Luckily I'm not fast enough yet to really need to worry about that yet.
So guys in Europe driving their M3 CSL's (same recaro shell) and who ordered the GT3 with optional GT3 seats but didn't get the clubsport cage are driving around in death traps? Cage wasn't even an option on the CSL yet the factoy sells it with a fixed back seat.

If you're usind them with stock 3-point belts it's generally accepted to still be fairly safe. When you add Harness' to the equation that's when you better have the roll bar in there.

There's several great debates about this in the track / DE forum.

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