New seats Installed - pics
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These appear to be replica gt3 seats, not OEM/Recaro (please correct me if i'm wrong). I looked at a set myself, and the price is tempting but you get what you pay for. The replica seats are not crash tested, not FIA approved, etc. I would not run them in any car of mine.
Also do a search about fixed back seats and roll bars. Most agree you should run Fixed back seats with a rollbar. Again, the choice is yours but its your own safety.
Also do a search about fixed back seats and roll bars. Most agree you should run Fixed back seats with a rollbar. Again, the choice is yours but its your own safety.
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These appear to be replica gt3 seats, not OEM/Recaro (please correct me if i'm wrong). I looked at a set myself, and the price is tempting but you get what you pay for. The replica seats are not crash tested, not FIA approved, etc. I would not run them in any car of mine.
Also do a search about fixed back seats and roll bars. Most agree you should run Fixed back seats with a rollbar. Again, the choice is yours but its your own safety.
Also do a search about fixed back seats and roll bars. Most agree you should run Fixed back seats with a rollbar. Again, the choice is yours but its your own safety.
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I will say this once more again and leave it at that because I don't think this has the attention it's deserves. Seats are one of the most important safety devices in the car. They are designed to work as a system. Fixed back seats become more dangerous in the event of a roll-over and thus dictate the use of a rollbar. Not only this, but the replica seats will have inferior build and quality. The seats undergo no research/design/testing for impacts, they are simply made resemble the finished product, GT3 seats made by recaro.
here's a boxster crash test to watch and think about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K4OvtmR7bo
That being said, they certainly look alright, and will keep you in place. Your safety is compromised to something below that of stock seats, as long as you are okay with that. I do track events, scuba dive, certainly take risks I think are worth the enjoyment i get back, it's each person's call to make.
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here's a boxster crash test to watch and think about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K4OvtmR7bo
That being said, they certainly look alright, and will keep you in place. Your safety is compromised to something below that of stock seats, as long as you are okay with that. I do track events, scuba dive, certainly take risks I think are worth the enjoyment i get back, it's each person's call to make.
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They are designed to work as a system. Fixed back seats become more dangerous in the event of a roll-over and thus dictate the use of a rollbar. Not only this, but the replica seats will have inferior build and quality.
That being said, they certainly look alright, and will keep you in place. Your safety is compromised to something below that of stock seats, as long as you are okay with that.
Regards,
That being said, they certainly look alright, and will keep you in place. Your safety is compromised to something below that of stock seats, as long as you are okay with that.
Regards,
Either way whatever stay safe man.
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Because fixed back seats are not designed to collapse or divert the occupant downward in the event of a roll over. Therefore, increasing your risk that your spine/scull being crushed or disconnected. Non fixed back seats are designed (at least with BMW's to collapse and divert the passenger down into the footwell) to do that. Hense, it is highly recommended that when installing fixed back seats, that a roll bar or cage accompany the installation and is the conventional wisdom of pretty much every track guy I've talked to when the subject came up.
Luckily I'm not fast enough yet to really need to worry about that yet.
Luckily I'm not fast enough yet to really need to worry about that yet.
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Because fixed back seats are not designed to collapse or divert the occupant downward in the event of a roll over. Therefore, increasing your risk that your spine/scull being crushed or disconnected. Non fixed back seats are designed (at least with BMW's to collapse and divert the passenger down into the footwell) to do that. Hense, it is highly recommended that when installing fixed back seats, that a roll bar or cage accompany the installation and is the conventional wisdom of pretty much every track guy I've talked to when the subject came up.
Luckily I'm not fast enough yet to really need to worry about that yet.
Luckily I'm not fast enough yet to really need to worry about that yet.
If you're usind them with stock 3-point belts it's generally accepted to still be fairly safe. When you add Harness' to the equation that's when you better have the roll bar in there.
There's several great debates about this in the track / DE forum.
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